Mode Lighting Issue

So is it the expected behavior of the app to not subscribe to any events unless the dimmer is selected under "Turn on with switches"? If so, that wasn't obvious to me. It seems like the app should subscribe to all the switch on events for the selected dimmers.

This is correct. It only subscribes to the ones you select to turn it on. Consider this: Suppose you have 4 dimmers in one Mode Lighting app, and one of them is the "master" that turns it on or off. Suppose further that you'd like to have other settings for the 4 where perhaps only two of them are on instead of all 4. If the app subscribed to all of them, this would not be possible --> any of the four would always turn all of them on. By subscribing to only one, any combination of the 4 lights is possible. If you want all 4 to act as a unit no matter which is used, then put all 4 in the selection for those that turn it on.

Got it, it's just a bit counter intuitive. I imagined that I was telling the app "Any time dimmer X is turned on while in mode Y, set it's level to Z." With a single dimmer selected, it's not obvious that I also have to tell it to do so when that switch turns on. Perhaps it should show an error message if it isn't subscribing to any events.

Worth looking into making it more obvious for sure.

@bravenel , this app would be great for me, but i have to use RM because I use a mix of contacts and buttons for my switches. Could change of contact be added as a switch option? not sure if i'm the only one who does this or not.
I have it working but i then have to have another rule that changes the value if the light is on and the mode changes. I then have to do this for each and every light.


below is where i'm using the fibaro dimmer 2 scene capabilities to control a different light (Zigbee) the driver is not perfect though hence why I requested the scene to button bit to be added to the stock driver :slight_smile:


Why does it use change of contact? As opposed to "open" or "close"? That seems odd. Another question, why do you care if the light is off? Mode Lighting doesn't, it just fires away irrespective.

Mode Lighting does support button push as a means to turn on the lights.

sorry my terminology to me OPEN OR CLOSED (which is what i'm using) is the same as changed state.

Because if the light is OFF i need it to turn ON but if its ON it should turn OFF.

Great, it's the same setup as the Open closed contacts if the light is off and the button is pushed I want it to turn on to level depending on mode but if its already ON and i push the same button it should turn OFF.

this all came about when I was on ST and i wanted smart lamps as opposed to smart switches (I wanted to have the colours and kelvin). But in the UK there was nothing about at the time to be able to then use, normal or retractive switches. So I wired 12-24v to the switches as well and permanently supplied the lamps. I then got loads of FIBARO universal binary sensors as i also wanted temperature sensors in the rooms and door contacts (I don't/ didn't want any battery powered devices if i could avoid it as i have a old house). I then connected the inputs to a switch and when they change state i use that as a trigger then depending on the state of the lamp or RGBW controller, it then decides if it should turn ON or OFF. I'm a commercial lighting controls commissioning engineer and electrician hence why I thought of it this way :joy:
The problem was with ST when they had they may break downs my light switches don't work! Hence HE, but also hence why i now have Fibaro dimmer 2's in the new rooms i have done. One switch for the switchable white downlights on the load and using the other switch to control the smart lamp via the scenes commands. This way even if HE goes down i will always have the downlights.

Mode Lighting doesn't really do what you want for either. It doesn't toggle on/off based on state of the light.

is it just a case when the switch is ON it will blast a ON and when the switch is OFF it does a OFF no manter the lights state then?

The main use of Mode Lighting is that it is activated by a switch. So, if the switch is off, it turns the lights on, and vice versa. It uses separate buttons for on and off. It doesn't support a toggle function. This is typically used in a room with several light switches, where one becomes the master on/off, and the others follow -- combined with the dimmer-per-mode functionality.

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