Migrating a Z-Wave Network

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15 devices will go quick. There's some people with over 200 devices.

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Mine was 85 Z-Wave devices. I did it in 3 groups, plus a few unimportant stragglers. I ran both hubs at the same time, so that my house stayed running normally. For the most part it was pretty straight forward. In a couple of cases I had the same automation running on both hubs, with some of the devices controlled by one hub and the others by the other hub. I did this before we had the radio backup and restore working, as we were working on C-7.

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Z-wave migrations make me want to move over to Zigbee. With Amazon, Google, and Apple endorsing Zigbee, it might be a matter of time before Zigbee is the defacto standard in the USA.

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Out of curiosity, would the new functionality on the c-7 to replace a failed zwave node also help in migrating devices over? Not sure if Iā€™m misunderstanding the feature or not.

https://docs.hubitat.com/index.php?title=Z-Wave_Manual#Replace_a_failed_Z-Wave_node

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Will it be possible for me to move from a C-3 to a C-7 using the same steps for z-wave above including transferring my zigbee devices?

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Answered in another topic by @bravenel .

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Wouldn't the node have to exist in the z-wave radio first? As opposed to the hub device database.

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Yes

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My threshold for pain is lower, Sir :smiley:

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I suspect the above will create a "ghost", I heard the hub is supposed to remove ghosts automatically, but that has not been my experience with my C4 hub, and both a Zstick & Aeon Stick found ghosts, removed a long time ago(months)

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No, this doesn't create ghosts.

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Thanks for the clarification.
Did you ship my C7 hub yet??

Just kidding, you can't possibly keep track of 16000 orders in your head

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I wasn't able to make this technique work for ZooZ Z16 MultiRelay because I couldn't edit the DNI on the subsidiary devices.

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Yep. Also, won't work for S0 locks.

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Hey Bruce, is there any particular significance to the 'X' or the 'B'?

I.E. would 'x' and 'y' work just as well?

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For the "X" no, doesn't matter. For the "B", must be a valid hex number, but you want one large enough not to collide with assigned DNIs for Z-Wave.

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Thanks Bruce. Much appreciated.

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I just tried moving my C-3's stick to the C-7 (to which had restored a copy of the C-3's database) using an OTG cable.

Zigbee devices worked fine on the C-7, however the C-7's Z-Wave settings page still showed just the few Z-Wave devices that I had previously joined to it when checking it out (and none of the devices from the copy of the C-3's database). Yet the C-7's new Z-Wave logging page was showing messages that included the node ID's of the C-3's Z-Wave devices... it appeared that both Z-Wave radios were still active. Did I miss some step in the process?

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Did you see any events from the node ID's of the C-7 devices? We will look into this, but I'm pretty sure that the internal radio is disabled once you connected the external radio -- assuming you shut the hub down, and powered it back up again after connecting the stick.

@bcopeland

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I was able to refresh (using the refresh buttons on the Z-Wave settings page) the devices that had been paired only to the C-7 (they were still powered up at the time) and they changed from Unknown to OK. These devices did not produce any entries in the Z-Wave logging.

EDIT: Wen I did a Z-Wave repair on the C-7, the node IDs of those original devices were listed in the log of the repair. The node IDs of the C-3 devices did not participate.

I did shutdown and restart the C-7 when relocating the stick, however now that I think about it I did not do a soft reset on the C-7; I just loaded the copy of the C-3 database.