No it's cloud based. Cloud based devices are opposite of what Hubitat wants. If it's a cloud based device and has an open api, hubitat leaves it to the community to integrate but even the community isn't interested in cloud based switches. The switches you are looking for are zigbee, z-wave, or Clear Connect (lutron)
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Can somebody point me to one that would work on eBay? So I have a reference point to start from. I am new to hubitat and don't know much about the platform.
I thank you for your guyses help up to this point.
The tplink Kasa line are designed to be either cloud or local LAN controlled over WiFi.
The non dimming switches are $32 for a 3 pack at Amazon. kasa smart light switch hs200p3, https://a.co/d/1wckwye
Dimmers a bit more. https://a.co/d/4eq0ai7
There are community drivers for Hubitat to support them in a local LAN mode without the cloud.
This is about as cheap as you're going to get for a UL listed device, or something you don't have to flash the firmware with something like Tasmota.
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And bear in mind, @user5035, that if your Wi-Fi network is down you'll loose hub & automation control over your lights. If there are areas in your home where your Wi-Fi signal is weak, that may affect responsiveness.
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What about Tasmota flashed devices?
I have plenty of them and they work great.
And are off-the-cloud devices.
There’s a different approach possible, that could be less expensive and is rock solid reliable. If you’re focused on cheap, some of the requirements will put a lump in your throat, but in the long run it’s less expensive than smart dimmers and far more reliable that Z-Wave.
If you buy a Lutron Smart Bridge Pro and use Pico buttons for the control of smart bulbs, you can use many different smart bulbs and fully control them as if you had installed a smart dimmer. I prefer Hue bulbs with a Hue bridge and the Hubitat Hue Bridge integration. Picos are around $15 each and are highly customizable.
For fan control you can use the Caséta fan controller, or any number of other compatible controllers out there. There’s a Pico for fans if you’re wanting a separate control of the fan at another location and want the fan icons on it (but it’s not a different Pico in any other way). For things like exhaust fans, you can use a regular switch or a regular fan timer with a Shelly 2.5 installed behind it.
If you need a smart dimmer on a light that cannot use smart bulbs, then you can add one to the mix, but still control it from multiple locations with a Pico. Pico’s can be programmed to control multiple light in multiple was from a single Pico if you want.
The advice to do it in small chunks is good, but if you want to drop the cash and do it all at once, that is your prerogative to do so. I can tell you for sure my setup is almost exactly as I’ve just described, and it works without a single issue day after day. However, this is my third smart home build, so I’m was able to approach it from a place of experience. If someone had recommended I buy all this stuff and do it as I’m suggesting (and actually @mike.maxwell sort of did, but I didn’t listen at the time), then I might not have learned as much. However there’s no question I would have saved a lot of time and had more money for playing with the fun stuff, instead of wasting it on lighting projects that didn’t pan out.
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The other note, specifically for Kasa devices at least, is that they will not push events to Hubitat. Hubitat has to pull updates. So if you turn a switch on manually, it will be delayed showing up in Hubitat. That has real impact on automations.
Zooz 700 switches are the best bang for the buck. 5 year warranty, excellent customer service, VERY decent pricing, and a litany of configuration options thanks to @jtp10181's drivers. They all support smart bulbs if you decide to go that route in the future.
The other VERY important part of most cheap switches, most have no electrical certification rating. Have one catch fire and burn your house down, and good luck with an insurance claim.
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They're an amazing bargain at their price point.
Solid advice.
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Disagree. See my post above.
This is the advantage. I removed all the single, 3-way and 4-way switches in my house and wired the load and hot permanatly together in box for any light fixture that was going to have a smart bulb. For any light switch that would require a smart dimmer (Insteon in my case), they were installed where the light load was, and a Pico took the place of where the former 3-way switches were. This has the avantage of my not losing any control I previously had, changing it how I want, anytime I want, and adding extra control on the same Pico for the existing light, and/or other lights.
Other functions are possible too. For example, certain Picos have the off button programmed so holding it down runs the goodnight sequence to turn off all the lights I want to go off and lock the doors.
You might, but I don't personally thing this looks clumsy.
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I don't think Lutron is going to be in the ~$10/switch range he wants to stay near. The Lutron smartbridge pro hub is about $120(?) and Picos are now running about $20 each on Amazon. Other part I don't like is I lose direct control of the lights from the switch if my hub goes down. Much preferred (at least for me) that my smart light switches are directly connected to the circuits and can control lighting regardless of the status/existence/function of my hub(s). My own subjective comments about my preferences aside, I don't think Lutron hits the OP's price target.
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Agree with this 100%.
Also, the pico/caseta button layout/UI is horrible IMO. I know its a love it or hate it thing, but I hate it and the WAF level is below zero on them. If you're never touching the switches (motion lighting, etc) then maybe its fine but we are not motion and instead use the physical switch for every entry/exit to rooms.
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Well there are the new Caséta, but that’s more expensive. I paid $25 CAD ($18.75 USD) for my Picos at Home Depot Canada. Find it hard to believe you cannot get them for that or less in the US. Yes the Lutron bridge is an investment, but I mentioned that in my previous post, and it together with Picos are going to be cheaper than a house full of reliable smart dimmers. Now if you want to fill your house with a bunch of unreliable, smart dimmers that you have nothing but problems with and you’ll be limited on what you can do, you are free to throw away your money. 
If the hub goes down, you can control the lights from the Hue app until you get you hub working again. That is one of the particular reasons that I find the hue bridge to be an advantage over directly connecting bulbs to a hub. Honestly all the worry about hubs catastrophically failing just isn’t a thing I’ve experienced more than once in the last 4 years. I have not experienced a serious problem with the hub database in three years, on three Hubitat hubs. And I have spares if it comes to that. As far as the Lutron SmartBridge Pro going down, it is just so rare, it’s not even worth considering. That’s why I recommend Lutron. It’s just solid.
As far as the looks, you guys are funny. The OP asked for a cost-effective reliable solution, and you’re talking about your opinions on looks somehow mattering to them. 
I just want you to do it's cheapest possible like I said I got to buy it like 20 of these so a good deal on a set of used ones but also be great. I don't want to sink something like $200 into the project.
I have a few wall mounted to control fans that only have on/off wiring (via Bond bridge integration). Wife loves picos as hand-held rmotes, does not like them at all on the wall as she can't quickly and reliably enough identify which button she's touching by feel when she's entering/exiting a room. So that's an issue for us as well.
Um, you’re in a pickle with yourself my friend
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I just don't see Lutron fitting in w/his pricing needs, as I noted above. Cheapest I could find a Pico remote a few months back was $15 used on eBay. Amazon best price I saw today was $19.99 new, a couple bucks cheaper used for limited quanities available. Took a quick look on eBay and didn't see cheaper.
The issue about loss of direct control is very relevant to the discussion, it should be mentioned so folks can decide for themselves what's important to them, particulary with people who are newer to this stuff. 
I love and use Picos all over the house as remotes, and as noted in a few places wall mounted. I just don't think they fit this topic's price constraints.
Can this thread be closed? @user5035 has been given the link to a list of Hubitat compatible devices from the Hubitat documentation, which they can use to find devices on eBay at a price point they are comfortable with.
That was the main purpose of this thread (Looking for light switch). Which I think has been met.
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So if I go with lutron what all would I need to complete each circuit fan control in light control. I don't understand how the pecos come into play or how I can wire them Pico's to use them as controllers?
Lutron has multiple product lines that are compatible with Hubitat, including:
Lutron's website has answers to your questions about their products.
Using any of their product lines with Hubitat requires the purpose of a bridge, the cheapest of which is about $150.
This community has provided you with a large number of suggestions with varying price points. None of them meet your desired price point.
A suitable approach may be to use the Hubitat List of Compatible Devices and search for used products on eBay.
Beyond that, this thread is going no where and is best off closed.
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Please explain what kind of fan you have.
For example, we used to have just a regular ceiling fan and I used a Lutron Caséta fan controller. It had regular lightbulbs in it so I used smart bulbs in the fan. Now we have a fan that has a built-in LED and it only responds to RF frequencies. So in that case I use the RM4 Pro that was mentioned previously in this thread. It can be controlled directly from Hubitat and is a local solution. The Picos can then control RM4 Pro, and ultimately the fan. The way I control the RM4 Pro is with a Z-wave fan controller, but I’ve disconnected it from controlling the fan. It’s actually acting like a button controller (but I do this for a very specific reason).
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