Wondering if there's any plans for Hubitat to initiate a partnership with LG now that they are opening their API a little? Still only B2B partners, so no clear way for the community to resurrect the defunct integration. But it seems like Hubitat could now that LG is accepting B2B partners?
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As noted in the LG ThinkQ thread, LG bought out Homey and their new LG hub looks strangely like a rebranded Homey as many suspected they would do, this will be a mess for sure and maybe even the downfall of Homey as we have seen some other company do.
Interesting as far as the hardware side is concerned. But was more interested in the cloud software aspect of that article that they are allowing other companies to integrate with their cloud API.
I just don't have an understanding on some of these companies that don't fully open their API to community developers but do allow B2B arrangements what barriers they put up. Do they charge and you just need to be huge enough (i.e. amazon) to justify buying in? Are they just not willing to engage with smaller players, like hubitat, and that's why we don't see native support? Or do they not generally openly advertise that they are looking for B2B partners and maybe there is a real opportunity for native hubitat integration if the powers that be at hubitat wanted to?
I would say that it's all about $$$$ and nothing else, they don't care at all what the consumer wants, they are only in for the money on the long run and selling you out.
That is why matter could be huge on paper, now let's see what it will actually be when everyone is in on it and they see that they can't make money off of you on the long run.
I think as has been mentioned on the forum previously, Hubitat are unlikely to provide direct support for something that's cloud based as that goes against Hubitats ethos of keeping everything local.
Guess I thought my Alexa integration and ecobee integration were both directly-supported cloud based integrations already.
Fair point, I've maybe misunderstood what I've previously read on the forum. I'm not sure what the reason would be for supporting one cloud based integration over another....
This is just my own theory, so take it for what that's worth (not much!)...
I think Alexa (and similarly Google Home) was a reluctant yield that was deemed somewhat unavoidably necessary since both ecosystems are such popular (and long established) gateways in terms of how users "manually" interact with their smart home.
I'm guessing that back in the day, Ecobee represented a cool gadget with some unique & desirable functionality and it was somewhat of a David vs the Goliaths of Nest, Honeywell, etc... Perhaps Hubitat just took a particular shine to them for those reasons or whatever else.
My guess that if Ecobee was a new-to-market product today, Hubitat wouldn't support them in that same way, but again, that's just my opinion.
With LG purchasing Homey, i wouldn’t bet on it. I would expect LG to put everything behind a walled garden on homey.
Well... I don't really care about integrating my washing machine. But my GC's HVAC guy at my cabin is an LG guy (which is unfortunate, since I believe the Mitsubishi cloud interface has some decent community support). But I discovered these things (Sensibo Sky - Smart AC Controller, Make Your Air Conditioner Smart) which seem to just be HVAC/AC-specific IR transponders that just hijack the air handler remote. They look like they have some community support and at least have an open API.... so might have a decent solution that lets me go back to ignoring LG's cloud interface once that system gets installed.
Could we put it to the vote across the users who have invested in hubitat and would like this integration? I for one sure could use it to have stable notifications from my washtower and have the cooker hood start when the hob comes on reliably. I have all these setup already with the current community app, but they stop working within days.
Not exactly sure what you want to vote on here, Hubitat has nothing to do with this integration, it was made by a user like you and me, that user moved on to something else or just abandoned the app, what can we do other than hope someone want's to pick this up and rewrite the code that does not work anymore.
If you are asking Hubitat to add LG ThinQ support, that just won't work because firstly it's not local so that's not going to happen, does LG have an open API, well not at all, the API this app uses is a hacked API and Hubitat will never use this API without permission for obvious rasons. Will LG give permission to Hubitat to access the API with all documentation to know how to use it, chances are very slim especially since LG just bought a hub company in the past months.
Only real thing that could happen is if they ever get this matter compatible some day, but I seriously doubt that if they do, it will most likely be for new models and will never have older appliances upgradable to matter.
the idea was to have the community vote to gauge interest for HE to add ThinQ as an official integration to their dev queue through the new API. Looking at the HE built-in apps, they're not exclusively local. HE would be in a position to sign up as a B2B developer and for them, this shouldn't be too much work.
Stating that things are going to get messy due to the Homey acquisition, is just assumption; I wouldn't understand why LG leadership might sign off on the API being published at this stage if they plan on revoking access and forcing exclusivity to the rebranded Homey hub in the short to mid-term.
Logically there is a much larger potential to drive ThinQ appliance sales to potential buyers with different smarthome hubs, rather than sell a single hub to existing LG appliance owners, the majority of which I doubt have smart homes like us nerds here.
I’m also not sure I understand the point of this.
The staff don’t put feature requests to a vote here, AFAICT. But they do consider feature requests from the community and presumably if a feature request topic gets lots of responses, they would take that into consideration vs. a request with zero responses from others.
If you are so inclined you can create a poll that other users can respond to.
Click the gear icon in the upper right when composing a post, which will open a dropdown menu that includes the option to “build poll.”
My guess is you might get a handful of people, or perhaps a dozen or two, to respond.
I don’t think it’ll be a very illuminating poll, but the option is there.
Having appliances be able to talk to HE is a + if possible, but having it be non local is not what I think as reliable, even if He could talk to my fridge and monitor the door to see if it's open or not for x number of minutes is nice but if it's a problem (like the door on my old upright freezer) I will add a local way of monitoring it, never will I rely on a non local integration on this, other parameters of the fridge like temps would be the same thing.
But having my dryer tell me it's done, that would be nice and non critical to me and a cloud integration could be nice but not necessary as there are other ways to get this info. Having a way to know if the TV is on or not is another nice to have, but again other ways are available.
Having it integrated natively would not be a nice to have but not a deal breaker for sure, if the dumb refrigerator is better rated and more reliable, I will chose reliability before integration any time of the day.
Only the future will tell, but if LG would actually think like you hope it does, there would be an open API available to everyone already. So don't hold your breathe on that one. Best example that money talks, here in Quebec our power company is a public company, they have a program where winter days that they think will require more power and strain the system, they offer a credit plan to entice people to save power. So many smart home people like myself have been requesting an open API from our public utility so that we can automate our systems, but still nothing after 5+ years, reason is that they sell there own thermostat system that automatically sets it self to presets on those days, they want to sell there system instead of having you choose the system you would like. So again, a big corporate business will always look at ways to make $$$ before giving free access to what you would like to have.
Again, a minority of people actually wants this (most likely less than .01% of sales), so why would they, if you want to integrate buy our hub so that we can make more $$$$$.
Anyway, I've blabbered enough here, like Mark stated, make a poll and hope for the best, I'll surely click positively for it since I have 2 LG TVs and looking to buy new appliances in about 1 1/2 years, if the are reliable when I buy, I will get them but not based on integration 
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