Legrand Radiant WNRR15WH Smart Outlet (Fingerprint)

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I dont know that its very accurate, but it does report power in some form of Watts.

LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 14W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 53W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 145W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 145W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 145W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 145W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 101W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 54W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 106W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 0W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet power is 1W
LFT Top of Stairs Outlet is on [physical]

The reporting seem consistent with the relative power level of the device from sample to sample, but i had a 1400 Watt Hair Dryer that i was using to test. Adjusting the fan speed and heat. 145 watts was the max reported which corresponds to max heat and speed. Ill need to hook up a Kill-A-Watt to see what it really pulls. But it could just be a scaling difference between what the generic driver reads and what the Legrand reports....

S.

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Yup. But this is still really useful. Thank you so much for testing this!

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Yes, the generic driver detects this

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@scottgu3 how is this outlet working out?

I need a bunch of outlets and have found other zigbee outlets out of stock. I do need some 20a outlets so I'm looking at these. Hoping they are solid.

Do these function well as routers?

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So far so good. The house hasn't caught fire, so I consider that a good sign!

It shows up as a repeater, and shows a peer route on the Zigbee network graph, along with a direct connection to the hub, and at least one of my Samsung Buttons is routing through it. (Edit: and a Hue Outdoor motion sensor)

Anyway...as it happens, I did lay my hands on a 20 Amp one as well, and intend to install it this weekend, so I'll report back on that soon.

S.

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Ok -- the 20 Amp is on the test harness with a fingerprint of:

fingerprint profileId:"0104", endpointId:"01", inClusters:"0000,0003,0004,0005,FC01,0B04,0006,000F", outClusters:"0006,0000,FC01,0005,0019", model:" Mobile outlet", manufacturer:" Legrand"

ZCL version:02
Model: Mobile outlet
Manufacturer: Legrand

Zigbee parsed:[raw:catchall: 0104 0000 01 01 0040 00 9AE1 00 01 1021 00 00 00F0, profileId:0104, clusterId:0000, clusterInt:0, sourceEndpoint:01, destinationEndpoint:01, options:0040, messageType:00, dni:9AE1, isClusterSpecific:false, isManufacturerSpecific:true, manufacturerId:1021, command:00, direction:00, data:[00, F0]]

It joined easily, and responds to commands as expected.

I've got it hanging on a test harness, and will put it in the wall tomorrow or saturday.

Correction. I just installed it in place of a Jasco 15 amp which was installed on a 20 amp circuit. Actually looks cleaner since Legrand doesn't put a big Zwave Plus or Zigbee logo right on the face of it!

On a side note, what is it with Ebay sellers these days? "New in box" or even "Open Box" is NOT the same thing as "lightly used, but really I installed it in the wall for a few months, and the faceplate got a bit grungy, but I couldn't figure out how to use it with Alexa, and heck I don't really understand how these backstab screwclamps work, and the wires wouldn't stay in the holes no matter how much I tightened the screws, so it never really worked anyway....so my wife is making me sell it!"

Or is it just me?

On the other hand, getting a $70 outlet for $40, wiping off the fingerprints and having it work perfectly? Priceless.

S

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NIce. Thanks.

I bought used 15a and 20a off Amazon warehouse. $35 each. They looked pretty good. One had bent ears. With any luck we can pick up returns from the people that wanted to use them with some other system. I'd probably do all the sockets in my house if I could get them for $30. I did my last house with Adorne outlets and switches.

I haven't installed them yet.

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One other nice thing about these is that there is a back stab to control a downstream circuit. So in a typical house a room with switched outlets like for the bedside tables you can swap the first outlet in the circuit to control the rest of the outlets.

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Interesting.

I didn't even read the manual. I've got a pair on the bench, I may have to wire them and try that.

Thanks for mentioning Amazon Warehose. Ill have to keep an eye on them.

S.

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I just saw elsewhere that it was claimed to be 3.0.

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I'm really digging these outlets. As mentioned, they're very sleek on the wall, with no obnoxious logos/symbols on the front. They're performing well in my mesh. And, also as mentioned, usually available at a reasonable price. I just picked up two that are claimed to be new from eBay for ~$40/ea delivered.

One nit and one observation about power reporting. I have 2 in production today, and one seems to report power and the other doesn't. (This isn't an exhaustive investigation, as I haven't dug in fully.) Of the two I have installed, they have different firmware. (ETA: To clarify, both send power reports back to the hub. One reports a nonzero value, but the other reports zero watts at all times.)

1021-0011-003D4203 does report power, while 1021-0011-003E4203 may not report power.

I haven't see anywhere that firmware is available, so if anyone has a better line on that, I'm interested. Of course, it would appear that the firmware with E in the middle is newer that the firmware with D in the middle, and that may not be a good sign. When I get my latest acquisitions installed, I will do some more exhaustive testing with all the units.

Interestingly, these Legrand outlets have the same firmware naming convention as my Jasco outlets. Are these coming out of the same factory? Wouldn't be a shock. Also, if I'm on the right track, I wonder if this has anything to do with the Jasco units suddenly becoming unavailable. (Probably not, both because the Legrand units have been available for a couple of years, and the Jasco are just now unavailable, and because that didn't stop the Jasco switches and dimmers from being sold alongside other switches and dimmers that could have been sourced from the same factory.)

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manufacturer 1124 is Jasco, these are 1021
The firmware file naming format is one suggested by the Zigbee spec, so that's what Hubitat has implemented.

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Thanks for clearing up the firmware name convention, @mike.maxwell!

Assuming it’s not working correctly, is there anything we can do to fix the power reporting? As I mentioned, I’ll have 4 of these in production shortly and will be happy to test with a steady load to compare against.

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what's wrong with the power reporting?

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I haven’t had a chance to do any direct testing, but it’s mentioned above that it might be scaled incorrectly.

I have two units in use, one reports some power usage, the other does not. My loads should be similar and in the 8-10W range, one reports 1W, the other 0W, so I’m thinking I either have the possible scaling issue, or it is not reporting properly. (Unfortunately, I can’t easily move those loads to test elsewhere, so I am going to have to bring the test to the receptacles.)

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there wouldn't be any scaling issues between two of the same devices.
I would find an old school incandescent bulb to test with.

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That’s the plan. I’ll report back when I have the new ones installed and a larger sample size to observe. Thanks!

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Done. Good news, not-good news.

For a current picture, I now have 4 of these units added to my C7 hub.

I grabbed a 200W incandescent bulb (only ~$5!) and a socket-to-plug adapter from my local home center. I started with an known-good-for-power-reporting Jasco Zigbee receptacle to act as a control. That Jasco recept reported 204W from the bulb.

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I then repeated the experiment with the 4 Legrand recepts that I have. All 4 Legrand recepts reported 21W back to the hub. (I'll just copy 1 of the log entries here, but all 4 look similar.)
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@mike.maxwell , is this something that can be corrected in the Generic Zigbee Outlet driver?

Here's a shot of the device fingerprint if that helps any. Thanks!

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Yes...

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I have these as well, but don't have the reporting turned on. What do you have this set to?

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