Latest scoop on Z-Wave or Zigbee Door locks

I have 3 of the yale assure 2 bluetooth only locks. I bring them into HA using a bluetooth proxy. They were cheap and work great.

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My first lock was an Okidokeys. Kept working until they went belly up. After that I bought an August (the 2nd gen round one). Expensive piece of garbage after two years due to a serious design flaw. Ribbon cable with an accelorometer attached to it that they refused to replace or sell me.

Then I bought Yale YRD series locks (similar and occasionally the same SL series locks, depending on the model). I have owned 8 over the years (I have 5 in my current home). They are not the strongest when you have a difficult to lock bolt, but they seem to manage. Depspite displaying errors, they still lock the door. All have been super reliable. One had a HomeKit Bluetooth module and one of those failed, but they replaced it without too much trouble (gave me a little bit of grief at first, but they did replace the module). My tenant's door has an August module (it was a warehouse deal) and that has been fine with the WiFi connectivity via the August/Yale App and Home Assitant, and it also works fine in HomeKit simultaneously. It uses a bridge, so really it's a Bluetooth module/WiFi bridge combo.

Anyway, the Z-Wave Yale have been fine. I don't know why some have had problems with them. Generally I am reading they are still good locks, despite being now owned by Fortune Brands in the US and Canada, instead of Assa Abloy.

I prefer buttons, three Kwikset 914s, four years of service, never a failure. Easily keyed alike. ZigBee for me but also available z-wave.

Edit: after I posted this I looked to see what current availability is. Lots of Zigbee but z-wave looks hard to come by at the moment.

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Yale Assure 2 and Assure 2 Plus are now available in either touch or button versions.

I had the Zigbee version of this. Very reliable.

Dumb question: These 914/Zigbee locks support Hubitat Lock Manager, right?

As I posted in the thread you referenced, I got two new Schlage BE469 deadbolts from Home Depot yesterday. The touchpads have locked up three times since installation last night.

Apparently, they are total junk now, or at least are incompatible with Hubitat for some reason.

Bummer. I can confirm that it's the touchpad or physical ribbon cable, not the software/firmware. :frowning:

Yes, sure.

Any lock that works on the built in system drivers will support LCM. All LCM does is use features on the driver, it is not device specific. AFAIK all system drivers are compatible.

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I will try a debugging experiment in a minute - I am going to factory reset the Schlage BE469 keypad and not connect it to Hubitat in any way.

If I don't see the touchpad issue occur in a few day, it could indicate issues with the Hubitat / Schlage interaction.

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Pulled the trigger on the 914/Zigbee. Looks a bit smaller and I guess I'll have to repaint the door but I'll live with it. :confused: Thanks all.

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They work perfectly with Locke Code Mgr.

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Sadly, it apparently doesn't work with my Schlage double cylinder lock, so I'd have to replace that, too (and on two doors, which are keyed the same).

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Bummer.

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Let us know how it goes...I'm thinking more likely a mechanical/physical build issue that may affect some models more than others. I think if there were a clear/repeatable keypad issue w/using Schlage on HE I would run into it at least once in 9 years on my lock... :man_shrugging:

We just replaced our front door that had 2 sidelights and a single door with a double steel and glass doors. I wanted a smart lock but couldn't install one given it would look terrible with the new door. I purchased a Level Bolt from my local Lowes to try with this new door hardware and it fit well. Purposely bought it from Lowes since I could easily return it if it didn't work.

By default it is Bluetooth with terrible range but they recently released a matter over thread firmware upgrade. I was able to get that for free and have it paired with a HomePod as the border router and it has worked well. Since HE doesn't support locks with Matter yet (know they are working on it) I have it paired with Home Assistant and use HADB to bring it into HE.

Long winded answer to say you could keep your existing double deadbolt lock and just swap out the strike with a Level Bolt.

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You may want to watch this for reference

Well done video. 16 locks and neither the Kwikset 614 nor the Schlage BE469 are included. :frowning: Would like to have both HomeKey and the ability to manage the lock codes with Hubitat Lock Manager. As much as I live in the Apple Ecosystem, I had never really considered HomeKey before. Interesting.

I saw that it was limited to WiFi locks so no Zigbee or Z-Wave. Bummer.

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