Kwiksets Smartcode 914 Zigbee and Hubitat - will an app manage codes and schedules?

Thanks for the tips. I'm looking forward to getting started.

I have been looking at automation controllers for a while and amazon ending the cloud cam control of my lock was the tipping point to get one.

I'm not pleased how amazon handled this. They glossed over feature removal for features that were part of my decision to buy.

water under the bridge. this simply raised the priority to find a replacement.

Update. C7 arrived, setup was easy enough. @calinatl thank you for the short notes. These worked well.

Lock manager allows adding locks edit: I meant codes, and I can lock and unlock.

I don't see support for scheduled times. This was useful for a pet sitter.
I don't see support to remove users from the locks.
I'll keep digging around.

update 2. lock manger does not seem to be working.

I cannot add codes.
I cannot retrieve codes.
I don't see any events in logs.

I can lock and unlock so there is some integration with the lock.

I seem to be missing something.

I'll post a question in the apps area.

Did you retrieve the existing codes from the lock first using "Get Codes" from the device page? Unless Lock Code Manager knows how many code slots are in use, it cannot manage codes.

when I selected Get Codes, I would see the response but the lock codes body was empty.

It did list the max codes, which is 30 but I could not add any.

Before pairing the lock I had done a factory reset so there were no codes in the lock.

I added three codes to the lock via the keypad; clicked "Refresh" and then "Get Codes"

The second and third code are shown. I guess the first code is the "admin" ?

Now that it has some codes to work with I was able to rename them via lock code manager

I could not add a new code via lock code manager, but could add it from the device page.

I'll keep experimenting.

Thank you @aaiyar for the suggestions.

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I'm still strolling through this forum, trying to glean whatever insight I can. I'm a new C7 owner, and I saw your reference to Kwikset and stopped to read more. The first and only ZWave device I've installed is a Kwikset 99160-020 Smartcode 916 that showed up as a Schlage FE599/BE369 Lock in My Devices which froze me in my tracks. Now I see it may just be using a Schlage driver, but I still can't get it to function remotely. Ah well, back to my stroll.

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So I just looked mine up, and it is indeed a Kwikset 916 (Z-Wave).
Yes, it pairs as a Schlage. I've gone back and forth and left it as Schlage [nope - see below] as that works best.

To pair it, I had to have the hub and the lock very close.

When you say you can't get it to function remotely, do you mean that after it is paired, in HE, in devices, you can't lock and unlock? If so that might mean it is not paired.

Might be best to totally reset the lock, THEN pair it into HE, then add back all the codes.

ETA 5/30/23: I just looked - mine is actually paired as a Generic Z wave lock. Sorry for any confusion I created...

I think I've done that, but to be honest, some time has passed between my opportunities to tinker with it as it's not in my residence. My recollection is that it gave a positive indication for pairing. Would it have shown up in My Devices otherwise? Thanks for the feedback!

Make sure you didn't create any ghosts when pairing

I found a workaround and gave up trying to get the kwikset 914 zigbee device to do more.

My workaround was to buy a used internal motor for a Kwikset Halo which has the electronic control board that uses wifi and is supported by the Kwikset app. The Kwikset app has remote code management, allows you to set codes with day/time schedule restrictions and one-time codes. It can also receive lock / unlock alerts.

Thanks for the advice and suggestions.

I checked, and that is possible. I removed it and will try to re-add it later. A frustrating aspect of my learning curve is that I'm doing this at a house about a forty-five minute drive away. I have remote admin, but some buttons must be pushed digitally. :point_up: :grin:

Missed this earlier, but if you haven't tried it yet switch the lock driver over to the Generic Zwave Lock - it works much better than using the Schlage driver.

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Post your z-wave details page in it's entirety so we can check

@Dan-H & @user2967 Yes - try the generic. I updated my post above as it was incorrect - I'm using the generic lock driver.

I have two 914 Z-Wave locks that are working. I can remotely lock and unlock from the Hubitat app. What I really want to do is add them to my google home. I have been able to integrate
Z-Wave switches and lights but I can't get the locks to integrate. I work for ADT so I known they work with google. I install them every day with alarm.com and then link the account to google. So I know it can be done. Am I missing something? New to Hubitat and could use some help. Starting to get frustrated.

The built in Google home integration does not support locks. You can probably use the community integration from @mbudnek

Google Assistant/Home does not allow unlocking of locks. BUT...

What I did is created a virtual switch and created rules that lock or unlock the door triggered by the switch change. (Keep in mind you also need a rule that changes the switch to match the lock if you lock/unlock it manually.) After that, I made two Google routines. One has a trigger of "Unlock the door" and flips the virtual switch to on. "Lock the door" flips the switch to off. The rules get triggered and the lock changes.

I should note there are many here that do not like automated locks and garage doors and would never do this for security reasons.

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Not so much we don't like automated locks, I would be hesitant to have them on a voice command though...

How do I set a virtual switch for four locks and rule

Devices, add device, virtual device. Choose type. The create your rule and use the virtual switch as the trigger.

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