Are you (support) not working or seeing my emails? I have been replying to your emails for a few days now and have received no responses. I purchased a new hub because you said I had "ghost devices" and it does not work. I am not expecting you to drop everything and help me, but after 3 or 4 days I would have expected at least a response that you are aware of my issues.
I have issues with my C5 not working properly so at the suggestion of others I purchased a C7. Well the zwave radio isnt working, the migration process does not make it work either. So do I need to return the hub? I also spent the $30 or whatever for the ability to migrate so that's $180 and as it sits right now, it was for nothing. So if its busted I cannot tell and I have to rely on this forum to figure it out?
Sorry man, but this is quickly becoming an issue that I am throwing time and money at for no reason.
Anyways -
does anyone have any suggestions on how to tell if my new C7 is actually broken or not? I followed the migration process exactly. the devices come over, but nothing ever connects except the one zigbee device I have. I try to connect a device directly after factory resetting the device it and its never detected by the C7 but it immediately pairs to the C5.
If I am going to have to re-do all my devices I will just keep the C5 since there really does not seem to be a difference at this point but how do I fully reset the hub so I can reconnect all my devices and not worry about these "ghost" devices that I cannot see? the documentation also says they they fix themselves after a reboot. well i have rebooted a dozen times so they should be gone by now. I really really like this hub, but if it never works, why bother? I literally have 4 other brands in my closet and I was hoping this was the one, but they all seem to fail at some point and I am left hanging. either they start charging $, the voice integration is no longer a thing or it wont fully support the devices it says it can. I'm getting pretty frustrated because I replaced every single possible item in my house with what was supposed to be "top notch" hardware to the tune of $7200 in components and I just keep falling into the same pitfall.
Can you describe exactly the process you followed? There are at least two varieties, one, a manual process that can be problematic if it is not followed exactly, and another, an automatic process using the Hub Protect subscription service. I have successfully done the former but have not tried the latter.
We are "seeing" your emails. We are a little backed up over the holidays and still working through some of the responses received in the past 3 days. Your ticket will be addressed soon. I see that you've mentioned yesterday that you have attempted to migrate to a new C7 and things didn't work well. Someone will get back to you soon. Thank you for your patience.
Just to comment based on your historical problems that you've experienced, migrating an unhealthy C5 mesh will result in an unhealthy C7 mesh, or worse. I don't recommend attempting to migrate the C5 mesh. Based on your previous comments and details of your tickets, your C5 mesh is not in a good shape to be moved over to a new hub.
Z-Wave transfer option offered by Hub Protect is intended to recover a healthy mesh from a defunct hub that is no longer functional. This option doesn't fix any prior Z-Wave issue, is a replica of what existed on the dead hub. If the mesh was not healthy, the same problems or worse will exist in the new hub.
Based on your C7s engineering logs, your radio is functional. I recommend updating to the last release, then reset the radio from Z-Wave Details and rebuild the Z-Wave network. In the long run you'll be happier with the C7 than C5, as it gives you better tools to troubleshoot Z-Wave problems and identify which devices may cause issues.
As mentioned in my previous email the problems you are experiencing with the C5 hub are indeed related to ghost Z-Wave nodes and/or one or more devices that may be too far away from the hub (or a lack of repeaters in your system). Your locks are also struggling to communicate properly to the hub, and you have at least 4 dead nodes that the hub is unable to remove during the nightly clean up process.
@danpirro
Just remember. If you have a failed pairing, STOP. Check z-wave details page for a ghost (won't have a route). Delete ghost, factory reset device, then attempt pair again. Pair all devices with NO security except for locks or garage door devices.
Ok, sounds like your C-5 Z-Wave mesh is hosed. In that case, the manual migration process is what you want to do. I would suggest doing a soft reset, then restore from a recent C-5 backup, then reset your Z-Wave radio. That will preserve your automations and your Zigbee pairings, which you say are good. Then, for your Z-Wave, use the manual migration process described here, building your mesh from the hub outward. After each pairing, check to make sure you have no ghost devices from failed or incomplete pairings, removing any ghosts before proceeding. This will preserve your automations. However, it doesn’t work on securely paired devices, or on parent/child devices, so, after you pair those, you will have to go to each automation and Dashboard tile using them, and manually swap out the old device with the new, then delete the old.
C7 and C5 and it’s even worse. Half the time automations don’t run and the devices have no log of the automation even trying.
I have all devices on the C7 and all automations on the C5 trying to spread the load. It’s terrible. So more questions. Does anyone use the hub mesh reliably? I’m not even going to talk about the Alexa integration anymore but man I thought this would improve my situation.
So my question is should I move everything to the C7 and be done with it? Throw the C5 away?
I do. I have all my zwave on my C-7. All my zigbee, LAN, and virtual devices on a C-5.
I used HubConnect previously but switched to HubMesh as soon as it was released. Everything has been rock solid. And I have meshed devices going both ways.
I run 3 hubs - a Z-Wave C7, Zigbee C5 and Network/Cloud apps C5. I use HubMesh to share devices with Alexa, share Lutron devices (mostly picos) from the Lutron Bridge etc. Has been working fine for a year or so. I would not get rid of the C5..
Not sure I understand the question? Both my Z-Wave and Zigbee meshes appear to be okay afaik. Am not getting any network busy or have any stats issues like free mem issues etc... like I did on my C4's
Sorry not you @erktrek, was asking @danpirro. If I recall correctly the mesh and devices on the C5 were so bad on the C5 that it was recommended to rebuild the mesh on the C7 instead of trying to remove the ghosts and other problems on the C5. If in rebuilding on the C7 he created more ghosts….