Is there a way to make sure a device stays at a "leaf"?

We have some pluggable z-wave devices that are only used during the christmas seasons. If those devices are used to relay messages to other devices, the mesh will be broken when they are removed after Christmas.

Is there a way to configure devices so that they will never be used to relay messages? I want any "repair" of the mesh to exclude routes through the temporary devices.

Alternatively, is there a way to manually configure a mesh and keep it intact?

Just unplug them when the season is over and find out. In theory the other devices will soon discover they are dead and stop trying to contact or route through them. You can speed that up a little by running a full repair.

I have two z-wave plugs I use and I just unplug them and mark them as disabled in the device list just to prevent any automations or apps from trying to use the devices. (Disable basically shuts off the driver, does not disable in the mesh). This will be year 3 I think, plugged them back in, turned on my rules and I was back in business.

I also have 2 Zigbee plugs and a few Kasa Wifi plugs as well, I do the same procedure for all of them and never have issues.

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Using ZW LR devices for this scenario is another option to consider -- they don't participate in the mesh (LR is hub-&-spoke).

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Well, I've found out the last couple of seasons and don't like how long it takes for things to work again.

Trying to figure out how to prevent the mesh changes.

We've decided just to leave the holiday-use-only devices in place when each holiday is over - the Zigbee mesh stays intact, and setting them all up again is one less thing to do every time.

I've added "(holiday)" to the names of these items, and there's a "HOLIDAY" virtual switch that conditions whether or not Rule Machine tries to use them for anything.

Also, I put childproof plug protectors in the outlets once the holiday lights are unplugged, so that no one tries to either use or remove them.

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I've switched to Kasa WiFi devices for holiday use. They are cheap and do not effect any mesh if you pull them.

You just have to make sure that your router can handle all of the devices though. I consistently have in excess of 50 devices connected at any given time and had to change routers last year to accommodate them.

I used to have Wifi devices, but they are a big hassle when you change WiFi passwords.

I would agree with that.

I use a 20 character password and unique SSID that I haven't changed in years so haven't had that issue.

There are tradeoffs in all of the available options.

Run a full repair, wait an hour or so and run it again. That should get everything on the right track anyway.

I think there used to be a single repair button for all devices under Z-wave details. Now it seems there is a button under each device.

Do I need to click each one, or do they all do a complete zwave repair?

What drives the mesh optimization, RSSI or delay? And, what if RSSI isn't being reported by some devices?

This button does a full repair.

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The buttons by each device repair just that device.

Not sure what you mean by optimization? Repair?
I think there is a daily healing that occurs but I am not totally sure how it works.

For individual devices, if they do not get a response back quick enough on the current route they will start re-routing and pick a new one. You can see the number of route changes since last reboot in the z-wave details.

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Thanks!

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