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Greetings,

While leveraging the clone function, so that I could test the calibration of a sensor, I discovered that my Crawlspace Humidity Control function contained a reference to a Calibration environment sensor that no longer exists.

After carefully reviewing the source code to be sure I had not missed something I exported the the function and edited the resulting .json file. Now Iā€™m not an expert in this area, but I first searched for mention of the calibration environment sensor and found it had been assigned an index of 41. So with care not to break the delimitation and nesting I removed anything that referred to this device by name or its index.

Next I renamed the original function, made a backup of the hub config, and attempted to import the edited version. What I found was that file selector would not allow me to select the file (grayed out). Just for kicks I once again exported the same function and then tried to import the unedited version (same result).

What I am hoping to accomplish by telling this story is two-fold. One, I would like to have an expert evaluation of my edit to be sure I have not corrupted the file, and two I would like to find out why I cannot seem to import anything (I canā€™t help but think itā€™s something silly like a hidden .txt extension even though I instructed the text editor to save with the .json extension).

I am working with Rule-4.1 on latest iOS with Safari.

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful attention to this matter. Please find the two attached files (attaching as replies due to max character limit).

~Jerry

Unedited version

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Editing exported rule files is not supported. The result is vaguely JSON but not documented, so you are on your own if you try that. The UI suggests backing up your hub before import/export, so hopefully you did that; if you're running into problems now after a botched import, the best solution is probably to restore from that backup. (If you don't have any rules you care to keep, removing RM itself and then reinstalling it would also do the trick.)

See:

EDIT: I should also add that it appears you were trying to get rid of a "phantom device reference." This happens sometimes, particularly if an action is deleted, though less often that it used to. The best way you can avoid this is by un-selecting any in-use devices before removing the action. I don't think the UI always lets you do this, so it's probably not 100% avoidable unless you create a new rule or, as suggested below, export and import the rule, using a placeholder or other device instead. But we've been told this is harmless (just possibly misleading), so if nothing in the rule is actually using the device, there shouldn't be any problems.

EDIT 2: Actually, it sounds like maybe you were just trying to get rid of an old device name you saw in the rule export. That I wouldn't even worry about at all (no actual device reference). This is likely just leftover from something as a result of how RM works internally, maybe a cache of device names for display purposes or generating the display text for triggers, conditions, or actions (none of which is really code, just a summary of your selections in the UI, despite the fact that it is presented in a sort of pseudo-code).

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We can only discourage in strong terms what you are trying to do with editing an exported json file.

However, if you have a missing device in an exported rule, when you import the rule you are given an opportunity to replace the device. You could simply create a placeholder virtual device, and do the replacement to that. With the rule imported, you could edit it to clean up.

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Thank you, that might prove to be a better solution in this case, but if I were successful at this attempt I thought I might also be able to do this with yet another function containing phantom objects (see attached). I realize these phantoms might not really be hurting anything, but itā€™s not neat. Short of having to rewrite the functions from scratch I see no other way to fix it.

~Jerry

FYIā€¦the values for the HighH and LowH are artificially inflated due to a defective sensor

Ah, so this is yet a different issue and one that is preventable: before you remove a device, it prompts you with a list of what apps are using it. Removing from all of those apps first is a good idea, though most will recover fine. However, you've discovered one display oddity that results in Rule Machine if you don't. We've been told that this, too, is harmless, but preventing it ahead of time is possible. (With, I suppose, one exception: general Z-Wave exclusion if the excluded device is paired to this hub. Removing it like normal from the device page will prompt you, but from the Z-Wave inclusion or settings page will simply remove the device. So, I'd do it the "normal" way whenever you can, or at least check first.)

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Thanks again, but in any case I still donā€™t know why the .json files I exported/downloaded cannot be imported even without editing. To be sure I also tried exporting a function then renaming the original. The file selections are all grayed out no matter what I try.

Have you tried restoring from a backup taken before you did the export (and import) to see if the problem persists?

Good idea, but no. I would have to go back too far. This is something I have toyed with for some time, but only recently decided to write about it.

Thanks anyway,

~Jerry

In that case, I'm not sure there's anything you could try besides removng the Rule Machine app itself and re-adding it. That should get rid of any RM problems--but, of course, also all your rules. I suppose you could try an export to see if that helps later.

But if it's just the "Import" button itself not working, you may want to try a different browser (and make sure you don't have Javascript or anything disabled) to rule out something on the client side.

Backups before all of this, of course, remain a good idea. :slight_smile:

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