I'm about the throw in the towel and return my C8

[rlithgow1]

Cool... As I said though, take a gander at this thread. Helps avoid gotchas. And remember, just because a device doesn't have a route doesn't mean it's a ghost. It could mean it just hasn't reported in yet.

Are you new to home automation or Hubitat or coming from a different platform such as SmartThings, Vera, or Wink? This may help!

Just throwing this out there. It may or may not be a help and I'm sure many others will contribute to this thread. Here are a few things to start you off. Z-wave Devices: 1: You do not need Wink/ST/Vera etc. to exclude your existing z-wave devices. Hubitat can do the exclusion for you. (Make sure you turn off your old hub first!) In most cases this is sufficient before pairing. Sometimes though you may need to factory reset the device. Non Plus z-wave devices may have to be included/excluded …