I need some input on the aeotec 6 doorbell

They way I think of it, when you press the button and it ding-dongs that's the doorbell.

If you setup an automation so that when a door/window opens that it just "dings" that's what I refer to as a chime.

Its not a very technical or scientific. Just how I have it sorted in my head.. lol

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Some folks who are accustomed to having an alarm system really miss the 'chime' any time a door or window is opened, even if the alarm panel is not armed. As someone who has never had one of these alarm systems, I find the concept of the 'door chime' to be a little annoying. My sister's house has an alarm system and every time a door is opened I get a little startled. :wink:

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Ok, so that's the page I'm on.

so if someone pushes the button does it have to ding or sing? can i have some flash or dash instead?

If it’s anything like the doorbell 5, you could use rule machine to automate muting and unmuting the speaker based on whatever criteria you need. And the muted doorbell chime could still act as a trigger for other types of notifications, like lights flashing, push notifications etc.

For example, with my doorbell gen 5 I have it make a noise and send pushover notifications to me and my wife’s phones, when the kids are awake. When they’re asleep, the doorbell itself makes no noise but the pushover notifications still come through.

Edit: while I also have some complaints about the doorbell gen 5, my experience has been not nearly as negative as what @csteele described. Particularly the battery drain on the button; dying after a couple days is not what I would consider to be expected behavior from that thing. So like many devices, it seems like YMMV.

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As a bonus, this Multisiren features an audio speaker that is separate from the siren - this speaker allows you to upload custom audio files for the device to play, depending on the rules you set. This is a brand new feature that requires your hub to support the new Sound Switch command class.

Hubitat isn't supporting this yet.. apparently.

The aeotec doorbell also uses the Sound Switch command class. However it works around the fact that hubitat doesn't have it built in by manually building the commands in the driver and sending the raw commands. It was pretty interesting to see how they got around it.

Was hoping I would be able to do it as well on the multisiren if I got my hands on it.

@mrutenbeck has one of these because I convinced him to buy one. Perhaps he can chime in. I do know he's had bad luck with the button in the remote dying after only a few weeks (actually dying, not just the inside unit claiming that it's low--also a problem I've heard about), which Aeon just sent a new one for under warranty to see if it helps. He may know more about how it works as an actual doorbell and how you can configure the chime/siren portion to respond to the button.

I had the gen 5 and returned it after a day or two because it didn't work well for me. The outside button was hard to actually press (it may seem like you did but unless it was perfectly level, it didn't always register), so that limited its utility as a doorbell. I also wasn't a fan of the inside unit sounds. I've heard gen 6 is better all around, but it's been so long I can't remember how they compare, even even having at least some experience with both.

I do have a Ring as mentioned above. I have the gen 1, battery-powered, and I really don't like it. Video takes forever to load, even if I answer the notification on my phone right away--sometimes not in time to see what was actually there. Even after playing with the detection settings and buying the angle-mount kit, it's also a bit too sensitive, seeing things much farther from my house than I want, like headlights at night or large trucks during the day on the street. Newer generations have better settings here, and I've heard powered ones are a lot faster with video than when on batteries, but neither of those would sway me--you need the Internet to view video, even if you're on the same LAN. For what they charge, I'd just use a regular "dumb" or smart-ish doorbell (like the Aeon or even a Xiaomi or ST button, which I think I'll try next) and use something else for video, like a Wyze Cam (cheap and still mostly subject to that Internet issue, but...cheap enough that I'm OK wiht it). Neither has any good integration with Hubitat, though there are workarounds.

Just my opinion. :slight_smile:

Maybe that's why mine skips so much. Add one more item to the Research This pile... :slight_smile:

It has a light that flashes but I couldn't figure out anyplace to mount it where we could see it.
Not wanting it to be too loud but also wanting it to be audible anywhere on the first floor, I ended up putting it in the attic (the attic is open over the entire first floor and there was an outlet).
We use the basic tubular gong sound, it's not unpleasant.
I have not tried using it for a door chime or any of the alarm functions.
I did experience the audio "stutter" when I set it up. It's odd. When I trigger it from the device page in Hubitat, it sends two or three button presses which causes the audio to stutter. When you press the doorbell button it only sends one event and it sounds fine. Since the doorbell button is what I care about, I didn't worry about the other . . . not to cast aspersions but it seems like that must be something in the driver (using the built-in) . . .

I use the doorbell to trigger a video clip to iSpy from the camera pointed at the front door. It also sends a notification using Pushover. If I want to see who rang, I can use the iSpy app on my phone to view the video clip. Not real time but it all happens pretty fast.

No. The skipping is for another reason. The dome siren has the stupid skipping issue as well.

Here's the explanation on the skipping...krlaframboise wrote the driver for the aeotec doorbell 6 too.

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LOL

I just found and read his explanation.. seconds before I saw your reply.. Thanks!! :slight_smile:

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I'm going to pour back over this when I get home this evening.
Some very good points here. Thank you!

Sure hope you remember your keys. With your doorbell not working, you might have a tough time getting anyone's attention.

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I have one of those perfectly working Schlage z-wave connect locks. I got this. :grin:

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The Zooz Multisiren and Aeotec Doorbell 6 both have built-in drivers that support the chime and siren functionality.

The Aeotec Doorbell 6 is the only chime/siren I've worked with where I haven't seen the stuttering/skipping issue happen, but some users still have that problem with this device.

The biggest complaint about the doorbell is related to the battery reporting, but I've explained that issue in detail on a few other topics for this device.

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@april.brandt

I have 2 of the Aeotec siren 6. I did not opt for the doorbell version because I prefer to fully automate rather than rely on people pushing a button. For example, someone knocked on the door this morning a good 10 seconds after the doorbell chimes played being triggered by motion sensors. I also have a Ring doorbell (eventually to be removed) that wasn't even touched by them and delivery drivers often drop off packages without ever considering ringing or knocking on the door.

As for the Aeotec Siren 6 itself, it's worked exceedingly well for me so far. Besides using it as an automated door bell and HSM alarm siren, I also use the chimes for other notifications. For example, I use the sound number 30 - Door Open (which sounds like elevator door tones) to signal when HSM has been disabled by digitally unlocking the front door deadbolt.

One other thing that I found surprising is that the Siren 6 is also a pretty good Z-wave repeater. Look at the number to the right of the label in the graphic below. The N value is the number of Z-wave neighbors. Nothing else in my house (currently) has a higher neighbor count.

Please bear in mind that my house is very small. So if I have a small house where I can hear the doorbell sound in every room from a single Siren 6, why do I have 2? Redundancy. I tend to keep spares of most devices and in this case, why not put it active? The only negative is that the playing of a chime on both devices may at times be slightly out of sync. That's not a big deal to me personally.

Bill

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I have my Aeotec 6 chime/siren set up in a similar way, with a Xiaomi motion detector instead of a door bell/button. It's great. Works very reliably. The only issue I had is that because the sensor is quite close to the door, when leaving the house the chime also triggered. I fixed this by putting a Xiaomi contact sensor on the door, delaying the motion trigger by a second and then using RM to ensure the chime didn't go off if the door was already open. Works perfectly. I've had several visitors quite alarmed when they hear the door bell/chime sound inside the house as they approach and they didn't press any button :smile:

Angus,

I too use the contact sensor on my front door to keep the chime from going off when I leave the house. There's no 1 second delay required on mine because there is a storm door that blocks the motion sensors from seeing me exiting until well after the front door contact sensor is already open.

I also have the motion sensors to only set off the chime when I'm home (using an arrival sensor) and to send a notification instead when I'm not. When I get a notification on my phone, I can then remotely view the front porch cameras to see who (or sometimes what) is on the front porch.

Another use I have for the chime related to the front door is when the KeyWe deadbolt is opened via a code on the keypad or NFC chip, it turns off HSM and then dings (sounding like an elevator door) the chime to indicate HSM is disarmed. The lock code lets my son have access to the house when I'm not here without setting off the HSM alarm or having to carry a sensor, remote, or other device.

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