I'm looking to move my Zwave buttons to Zigbee alternatives, do I go for the Hue Smartbuttons or a cheaper alternative? Which ones either supported or community supported should I opt for?
A recent thread for reference, most cheap options are zigbee
Where have all the simple buttons gone? - Support / Devices - Hubitat
Tuya zigbee, Sonoff zigbee, Ikea TRÅDFRI button are cheaper alternative
Pico's are about the best, cheapest, and most reliable buttons to use and very much supported. After of course you've already purchased the Lutron Pro2 bridge.
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I've started enjoying the ikea volume control buttons, the dimmer function being a bonus as well as the price and not needing another hub.
Will report back how long my enjoyment lasts.
I like these...
No battery is in it, it uses the 'force' (push momentum) to get the energy.
I do have a hue bridge because I can't find any drivers/app for it.
It's good enough for me it sticking on my nightstand
1 toggle the bedroom lights on or off
2 turns the bedroom lights on 30% to wake up and not be blinded.
3 turns the bedroom lights to 100% to blind my girlfriend if needing a get away.
4 turns off all downstairs lights
Do you have these integrated with hubitat?
No, like I posted, I don't find ant driver/app.
But all my bulbs are on- or shared with the hue-bridge.
Both (philip-bridge and Hubitat) can control thé lights.
I would love a driver/app but so far, no luck.
In the original post, there was no mention of the specific application. What type of device do your wish to control?
If it is a Lutron Caseta device and you already have a Caseta pro hub, then by all means get the Lutron Pico remotes. They pair directly with the Caseta switches and dimmers, but also connect with Hubitat through the Lutron Pro hub, Thus, they can be used to control other devices.
Personally, I would avoid a Hue remote unless you are using it with Hue lights. Hue uses the lighting version of Zigbee rather than the same version used by most other Zigbee devices. Thus, it would be better to use a standard Zigbee or Z-wave switch.
Hubitat supports both Zigbee and Z-wave devices. Thus, you can use a Zigbee button to control a Z-wave device and vice versa. The choice between Zigbee and Z-wave depends upon the rest of your devices. If everything else is Zigbee, then stick with Zigbee. I have both Zigbee and Z-wave devices, so I would chose whichever button design makes the most sense for the application.
I'm curious how's the response time of it? The button needs to wait for a push to energize it, initiate everything required to make a connection the hub (since it doesn't have battery to keep anything even slightest running) and finally signal it.
Same response time of when I turn it on with dashboard. I don't know if it would be slower or anything but it's less then a second would say.
It's just a button that doesn't 'check in' on it's hub but is expected by it...
Sorry if my English isn't good enough to explain it.
It was for controlling a Z-Wave relay on a gate to unlock it from the front porch. The Ikea volume button is working well now (i already had some spares).
Which button is this referring to?
IKEA Symfonisk Sound Remote:
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Not working well any more. It simply drops off after x hours.
Agreed.
If you have any Lutron Caseta devices coordinated by the Lutron Pro2 bridge, the Pico remotes are superb. Although they were designed to work with Lutron Caseta devices with or without the bridge, once the remotes are connected to the bridge, they can be used to control any switched device. They are very reliable. Since they do not have to check in with the bridge routinely, the batteries last a very long time.
If I buy one of the sonos controlling picos, I see I need the bridge. Is it another zigbee/z-wave device that is going to cause radio conflicts?
No. Lutron uses their own proprietary Clear Connect RF technology, which is in the ~433MHz frequency range. Thus, it penetrates walls very well, and is also very reliable. Clear Connect RF is NOT a mesh technology, however it does support 1-2 repeaters using the Caseta platform. Also, be aware that Hubitat requires the Lutron Caseta SmartBridge Pro2 in order to integrate Caseta switches, dimmers, fan controllers, and pico remotes. Hubitat also supports higher-end (aka $$$) RadioRA2 systems, which also support pico remotes. Be aware that Caseta switches, dimmers, and fan controllers only work with the Caseta SmartBridge Pro2, not with the RadioRA2 system. RadioRA2 has its own product line of switches, dimmers, motion sensors, keypads, etc...
"sonos controlling" is a marketing tactic for "higher price" Even the basic pico when paired asks you what you want the device to control and you can select music player, instead of lights and shades.
Unless you just prefer to pay extra for the speaker symbols painted on the button device.
thank you @ogiewon, I've ordered a bridge and a couple of pico remotes.
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And down the Lutron Rabbit Hole you go! You’ll enjoy it!
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