Did you activate it? I'm new here, but isn't there a back end element to hub activation and user assignment?
Not activated yet. While I'm very aware that HE is a beta company, I'm not too concerned about their lights suddenly going off.
I just want to chime in here before I head out for a while.
If Hubitat goes awry, then you could just use MQTT or the Maker API and a custom Alexa/Google Home integration via a raspberry pi or something. Everything locally will still work, and you could build around that.
It’s not something I’m going to worry about, though.
edit: the HomeKit integration is also local, so there’s that, too.
Well, none of us is privy to the business plans of either company. Hubitat could become hugely successful and it's owners decide to cash out or not. Samsung could decide tomorrow that the margins on their smart home division are too small to be worthwhile or not. Realistically, my <$100 Hubitat hardware is likely to be like any other consumer electronics purchase I've made--it'll probably eventually end up in a drawer of hardware I no longer use. I hope that's not the case and I'll continue to use and enjoy it for as long as it makes sense to.
I came from Wink over a year ago when it became clear to me that Wink was in a flaming death spiral. I was sad to make the switch but in retrospect it was a great decision and as much as I liked Wink, Hubitat has been so much better.
Maybe there will be a day when I'm faced with the same decision with Hubitat, or not. I'm hoping for the latter but at the end of the day there's always something else around the corner.
I'm not worried about it at all. There has always been a option from the get go that a premium tier is possible so I am assuming that would cover any cloud usage and help pay the tiny fraction of cloud access HE already provides.
Even IF, and that's a big IF, they should scale back in FW updates I doubt @bravenel @mike.maxwell and Pete would simply kill any active HUB or cloud without some sort of option for people here.
This is a fairly humorous topic. Who owns Hubitat? Who's in charge? We own it and we're in charge.
This isn't part of our plan.
That's not part of our plan either.
Our management team is still, last time I checked, in possession of our "right minds".
True statement.
Wisdom.
Happy Holidays!
@bravenel Thanks for all the hard work and reassurances! So far I'm happy with my purchase and my Wink migration is going well.
... and to you and the rest of the community!
I also need to point out that both @bravenel and @mike.maxwell came from ST and know the pain first hand with SmartThings which is why Hubitat was created with LOCAL control. Not one setting, app or driver is cloud.
I know, a bit over reacting but hey I wanted as many comments as possible to have more points of views, so mission accomplished. I will buy mine.
Nice and active community, that's one of Hubitat elevation's strongest parts. So Thank you all.
Good to know... but realistic item 6 is always the plan in one way or another... may not sell out but making cash is the goal of business
Which is why you don't communicate the nitty gritty details of business or updates or releases etc. We'll know you've lost it when you start providing timelines.
I hear they are all left-handed.
I hope it never happens but if Hubitat had to shutdown - I’m sure the community would be willing to contribute to make it open source.
Again I think Hubitat is a great company built by great people....hope it stays around forever.
Looking at the new CEO's past, it sure seems to me subscription model is in the future. There be a bare bone free tier, but more and more with these subscription models the free tier offer so little they are barely functional. I suspect the thought is it would encourage people to subscribe, but all it does to me is make me look for an alternative.
I bought a second as a spare because I trust the system.
Uggh. Same.
Oh come on. Do you really think Hubitat will put existing features behind a paywall? That model hasn’t worked for anyone. And even if they did something that stupid, don’t upgrade your hub. You’ll lose nothing.
I have no objection to them providing new services and features on a subscription model. The still have cloud overhead for remote dashboards and oAuth endpoints. SmartThings is doing this now for camera storage.
I'm sure I'll get a lot of ire from this response so here goes:
Everything changes and dies. If it didn't we wouldn't be here. At some point there will be a change(s) and we will make our decisions accordingly. Nothing is forever.
I certainly hope not. You are right it doesn't work, but that hasn't stopped others from doing it.