I am getting ready to install a URC Total Control setup in my home theater room to handle on my A/V equipment. Anyone know if it is possible to integrate it with Hubitat so I can control the lighting as well in one fell swoop?
[Network System Controller | URC Automation (urc-automation.com)]
It might be possible, judging by their partners page:
https://www.urc-automation.com/partners/
However it looks like a pretty closed system, with sales and installations by authorized dealers.
So presumably they control who has access to their API.
Iād suggest asking them.
Also it appears to support z-wave directly.
What kind of lights do you have?
I have all Zigbee GE/Jasco switches. LOL
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Did you ask them about their API?
There's a URC dealer on the forum so he would likely have more info. I don't currently install URC.
However with URC there is a IP trigger driver that can accept commands from systems like Hubitat to fire macros in URC. I'm sure there's a reverse driver available for URC to call external systems as well.
Do you recall his forum handle? We could tag him in this thread if so.
I don't recall. If I remember later I'll post.
[EDIT] found it in my old messages: @thornerthomas may be able to provide more details about URC integration capabilities.
Now lets see if @thornerthomas keeps an eye on this community site. LOL 
@thornerthomas you alive? I still don't have this figured out. 
Any help would be great.
I have done a little experimenting with a Hubitat and URC. You can send commands from URC to Hubitat. I have not seen a good way to receive device status information from Hubitat. I use a TRF-ZW2 in my system. The Hubitat looks like a viable solution for lighting control if support for the ZW2 is discontinued in the future.
Chowmain makes an IP trigger for URC that could be useful to some.
I used the Maker API in Hubitat to send html commands to devices in my Hubitat hub.
I used the HTTP Requests Module in URC to send the commands. This was done with what they call a "Simple HTTP Get Request". An example of a command I sent was...
http://192.168.2.47/apps/api/348/devices/141/beep?access_token=8c108756-13ae-4a59-80b4-fe638178048d
This caused an alarm I have to beep.
You probably want to delete the access token from your post.
@wjeff do you have access to your own URC controller? The guy that installed our system said I had to use him to make changes. Is that seriously true? I have to admit I am pretty unimpressed with URC so far. Such an insanely closed system will not last forever.
I do, but I am a dealer. I wish it was open as well, but that is not the case.
It is not true that you have to use him. You need to use someone who has the software level with URC you need. Another person can extract the settings for your system with a physical connection to your equipment.
There are two levels of installers for Total Control. One level has full access to automation functions and the other is called Total Control Lite. The Lite option emerged when Logitech Harmony withdrew from the market.
I personally am a fan of URC. The quality of the results is VERY dependent on the person doing the work. Unfortunately, the factory device drivers are not great for the most part. I have had to write many of my own to get the functionality I wanted. Depending on the complexity of your system it can take many hours to get it the way you want it.
I find the physical quality of URC remotes to be best in class. Many Crestron dealers use URC remotes with Crestron systems for this reason.
I am not sure you are right about URC's viability. They have been around for a long time and serve a certain type of clientele. The availability of open products of this type have unfortunately been shrinking. iRule and Harmony were both very good products, but they failed in the marketplace.
The issue seems to be that people who want more automation for home entertainment are not that common. HDMI-CEC and a few simple phone apps have addressed most people's concerns. The folks who really want more capability in their entertainment system remote and want to tinker with it do not seem to be large enough to sustain the DIY entertainment remote market.
The market for Z-Wave and Zigbee device automation appears to be different. The DIY market for these is much bigger. That being the case we are still seeing business failures like Insteon.
Thanks.
It is not a problem. I wanted to use a real example instead of one that has to be interpreted.
I feel like this is right. I really like my Control4 remotes (I have both touch screen and hard button versions). They seem as high quality as any URC I've seen (I've not seen any newer ones). C4 has some end user programming ability. Allonis is coming out with a new DIY remote/controller to compete with URC/C4/Crestron etc (and Hubitat too). Maybe Matter will make a difference when AV equipment is all added. I believe Amazon is pushing TV makers to adopt matter as the TV IP implementations tend to not be very good (that's why they still frequently have serial ports).
Interesting product. Looks like it has some presence in the sports bar space. I can see where this works in that space. Time will tell if they have any penetration in the home entertainment space.
Using a web browser is not something I am interested in for my home entertainment control. The folks who really want that type of interface are the same ones who are likely to be satisfied with the product specific apps that already exist.
The Allonis remote isn't on their site yet. And the software that's on their site isn't up to date for the remote. They're Kickstarting the remote.
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/allonis-llc-remote.3182373/
I don't see it on Kickstarter. I see several other options on Kickstarter.
Hopefully, one of these will offer an open platform, logic enabled, DIY, button remote with no fees or cloud connection that lasts more than a few years.
One feature I find useful is the whole house aspect of the URC remote. I did not have that with my other solutions in the past. Most of the DIY systems seem focused on a single room.
Voice control is also popular.
Sample of Kickstarter Home Control Products...
Sevenhugs Smart Remote: The First Remote for Everything by Sevenhugs ā Kickstarter
YIO Remote Two by Marton Borzak ā Kickstarter
MeshHub IRF, the all-in-one gateway controls IR/RF device by MeshHub ā Kickstarter
SmartMote - Alexa enabled smart home made affordable by Yanhua and Han ā Kickstarter
EZ Remote - Turn Your Smart Phone Into A Remote Control by EZ Remote Inc. ā Kickstarter
I think Allonis' Kickstarter campaign is not ready yet. I prefer more buttons, so I'm not super interested. This is the hardware:
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/allonis-llc-remote.3182373/post-61440499
I have a fairly good setup now. My non-AV stuff is almost all controllable by either C4 or Hubitat. Almost all automation is in Hubitat. As I said, I think (hope) Matter might make a difference in the future.
Download the Hubitat app
