Hubitat - How much can be seen?

Definitely your Harmony. BTW, I'm setting you up with 8 hours of quality programming. I hope you like "The 700 Club".

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I'd personally prefer MAS*H or Hogan's Heroes. ... If I have a choice?

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Now we're talking, Colonel Klink!

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I just can't resist making this comment and I have to add that it's lucky that we had a .... guardian angel... shall we say, that sought out vulnerable hubs, sent commands to their hubs and then came here and bragged about it. Always reassuring that someone's got your back. Right?

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And entirely fitting for the Hogan's Heroes motif, he might have been German too.

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Very little.

It should be obvious that we can see the registration information when you register the hub. That includes its Hub UID, mac address, ip address, the name you've given the hub, the platform software version, the hardware version, when the hub was registered, when it was last active (to our cloud), and your email address used to register the hub.

We can't see your location information. Your device and app event data is not sent to our cloud and is not available to us. We cannot see tokens, pins, lock codes, passwords, usernames, etc. We cannot see how you have set up your apps, app status or device details (which is why we ask you to show us these things here in the forum). We cannot see your comings and goings from the mobile app presence, your mobile location, or your Dashboards, geofence, etc.

When you contact support, we can access internal hub logs and diagnostic data if your hub is connected to the internet. These logs would show stack traces to help us diagnose crashes, and some errors (most errors show up in your Logs, which is why we ask you to show those here in the forum). What little we can see is only for the purpose of providing support.

We have designed Hubitat Elevation to protect your privacy. If we can't see your data, no one else can see it either. It stays on your hub.

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pretty sure they know where you live from your geofence info.:smiley:

Edit - OOPs just saw bravenet's post! scratch my comment on geofencing

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No, that information is not sent to our cloud. It stays within the mobile app. The mobile app sends geofence crossing events only. No location data is sent.

To the best of our knowledge, we are the only product that provides useful geofence functionality without sending ANY location data to the cloud.

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Not as much as Google, Amazon or Facebook. I'm not concerned with what data they can see.

I hope not much... I store all my porn in it LOL

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Bruce,

When you say internal hub logs, do you mean all the log information we have access to?

So essentially you guys can see every action that kicks off?

It doesn’t sound like it from this

That you downloaded with elinks, right? :wink: LOL

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Doubtful. Most likely he is referring to the internal JRE logs which contain the methods and stack traces of the code that runs the OS. Those are very different from errors and such that we see in the hub logs. The logs that HE support can access are generated at a low level.

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Nope.. with lynx using the gopher protocol. LOL

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For those youngsters that don't know anything about gopher it was created in 1992 by a bunch of college kids.

The design of the Gopher protocol and user interface is menu-driven, and presented an alternative to the World Wide Web in its early stages, but ultimately fell into disfavor, yielding to the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP). The Gopher ecosystem is often regarded as the effective predecessor of the World Wide Web.

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This is EXACTLY why I love this community. Make that joke in ST's communities and there might be a total of 3 people that would get it.

With that said, supposedly there are still ~350+ gopher servers running around still (according to Veronica). Time to refresh that collection? LOL

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gopher is still around but it's mainly for nostalgia.

So this should tell you guys just how old I could be...

My first email account was with HoTMaiL and the only way to get to it was via gopher back then, that was in 1996. I still have the same account.

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That and your profile picture.

Computers became a hobby for me in the early 90’s using bbs’s.

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Yeah, that would put us close to the same age group. My first true "email" account was on FidoNet in 1992 and then I moved over to CompuServe in 1994.

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