Hubitat and Vehicle Locks

I'm wondering if anyone has integrated hubitat with their vehicle. In it's simplest form, I'm looking for something that will confirm the vehicle is locked at a certain time (before bedtime). I know I can get a viper car alarm or something; but I like having it check and confirm automatically at a specific time.

Relays? Special modules? Car alarm already integrated with hubitat? Thanks for any suggestions.

I added a module to mine so I could disarm the house and unlock the front door with my cars built in Homelink button.

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I did the same thing and from the looks of it I used the same components. However I only allow homelink to arm and lock, not disarm and unlock.

Unfortunately though I don't think this is what OP wants to do. Sounds like he wants HE to know if his car is locked at night.

I think the issue with a relay hooked to a Zooz device or a contact sensor with a set of dry contacts would be - where in the car's circuitry do you insert said relay?

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I have a zooz multi relay wired to the buttons on extra key fobs we have. For one vehicle the lock button does 3 presses and it will remote start. Other one is 2 presses of lock and then double press start button. I have all of it working using 3 relays.

I had to expose the PCB of the remotes and the dry contact relays are wired to either side of the button contacts.

Using conditionals of exterior temperature we can have auto remote start.

Also at night we can also do doable check that both are locked.

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Correct. I am already using RM to ensure doors and garage door are closed at night. I'm a single dad with two teenage kids; and my garage has become a storage unit. My vehicle is parked outside. I had a situation about a month ago where one of my kids left the vehicle unlocked (getting out a band instrument)... and my vehicle was rummaged through the same night by vagrants (have them on camera).

What I like is I can tell RM:

  1. At 10:00 PM check if house doors are unlocked; if so, lock them.
  2. At 10:05 PM check if garage door is opened, if it is, close it.

These work great; and can even notify me of the status so I can "train" myself and the kids to get better at locking before bedtime.

I'd like to add a number 3 to RM:
3) Check if the vehicle doors are unlocked; if so, lock them.

Yes, I'm sure I can figure out which wires control the door locks. Just wasn't sure if anyone has done this before. The battery is constant 12v power. So I'm guessing I could use a zooz relay, power from the battery, and output to the door lock wires. I wonder if the draw sitting overnight would have any noticeable affect on the battery.

This is what I had in mind at first. I don't have an extra factory fob, but I can order one or install a basic lock/unlock device. Get the fob, and wire to the PCB. I already did something similar with my garage door opener (smart 2.0), so I'm comfortable here.

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One thing I will add is that I discovered that for my particular remotes I had to solder in several locations to get an effective "button press" from the contacts. It kinda defied logic to me but it's what ended up being needed.

Why do you need a check?
Make it simple and lock doors regardless of actual status.

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Door locks are momentary, so when the doors are actually locked, there is no signal that tells the car computer that the doors are locked. You would need to open up the doors and place a sensor in there somehow. Not an easy job and 100% not worth the trouble.

Do this :point_up:, this is what your car does instead of monitoring there state, why not just do the same thing, if they are already locked, no harm, if they were unlocked, well now they are locked!

You're right. That makes complete sense. Thank you.

Agree with you both. The only reason I liked the check was I can use text to speech for something clever like, "Hey Josh, you were an idiot again and left the vehicle unlocked". I'm thinking it helps condition myself on some subconcious level. But yes, I can absolutely live without the check.

Soo... zooz relay hooked to battery for 12v power, and output to the door lock wires? I know this would only work when the signal is close to the house; and I'm fine with that. The vehicle is only about 30 feet from my hub when parked at the house. My only other concern would be power draw through the night.

Thanks everyone for your kind input!

:rofl: I can relate :roll_eyes:

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I am almost sure the locks are latches.
So, it will be only a short pulses for the lock/unlock conditions.
These will be very easy to miss.
Another words, this will not provide current reliable door status.
Instead you will have a momentary event and I am not sure
this event will be different for lock and unlock conditions
(depend on implementation it may or may not).

Just do this. You can leave everything inside the house/garage, plugged into the wall, no draw on car battery. Every night at 10:00, fire the lock event. You could add something where 5 minutes after one of house doors close, fire the lock event. If the car is on the driveway, it locks, if someone has left, the lock event won't reach the car. That will keep the car locked most of the day as well.

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Resurrecting an old thread with my idea to remotely lock my 2010 RAV4.

This procedure is for a 2001 to 2010 RAV4 but might apply to other Toyota/Lexus/Scion vehicles. I know it will not work on my 2009 Avalon.

You will need an old key with a working remote. I disassembled the key to remove the remote.

To add a remote to an existing vehicle to a 2001 to 2010 RAV4, follow this procedure exactly

Then set up the Fingerbot. I had to use a shorter plunger but the Fingerbot could be spaced farther away from the remote.

Here are the instructions

TOYOTA KEY FOB REMOTE STEP-BY-STEP HOW TO PROGRAMMING INSTRUCTIONS

Minutes 5 minutes

  1. Prepare Vehicle for Programming

With the key OUT of the Ignition, OPEN and UNLOCK the Driver’s door.

  1. Enter Programming Mode – Step 1

Perform the following steps within 5 seconds:

a. INSERT key into Ignition (Do NOT turn) and PULL the key out.

b. INSERT key into Ignition (Do NOT turn) and PULL the key out.

  1. Enter Programming Mode – Step 2

PERFORM the following steps WITHIN 40 seconds:

a. CLOSE then OPEN Driver’s door.

b. CLOSE then OPEN Driver’s door.

c. INSERT key into Ignition (Do NOT turn) and PULL the key out.

  1. Enter Programming Mode – Step 3

PERFORM the following steps WITHIN 40 seconds:

a. CLOSE then OPEN Driver’s door.

b. CLOSE then OPEN Driver’s door.

c. INSERT the key into the Ignition and LEAVE it in the Ignition.

d. CLOSE the Driver’s door.

  1. Enter Programming Mode – Step 4

TURN the Ignition to ON position (Do NOT crank engine) then back OFF.

DO this ONCE to retain existing remotes programmed and ADD NEW remote..
DO this TWICE to ERASE all existing remotes programmed and ADD NEW remote.
DO this THREE times to CHECK how many remotes are programmed to the vehicle.
DO this FIVE times to ERASE all existing remotes programmed.

  1. Enter Programming Mode – Step 5

REMOVE key from Ignition. The power door locks will respond by cycling the locks from LOCK/UNLOCK to signal successful entry into Programming Mode.

  1. Program Remote(s)

Perform the following steps within 40 seconds:

a. PRESS and HOLD the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons on the remote simultaneously for 2 seconds. RELEASE.

b. PRESS and HOLD the LOCK button and hold for 2 seconds. RELEASE.

The vehicle will respond by cycling the locks from LOCK to UNLOCK to indicate successful programming of the remote.

  1. Program Additional Remote(s)

REPEAT Step 7 for any additional remotes to be programmed, including working ones.

  1. Exit Programming Mode

OPEN Driver’s Door to EXIT Programming Mode.

  1. Test Remote(s)

TEST all remotes. Programming is complete.

Update : I used a zip tie to hold the Fingerbot securely. Waiting on another Fingerbot to use with my Avalon.

The key does not NEED to be disassembled. Sliding the whole thing under the Fingerbot would be easier. I have a lot of Toyota key fobs so obtaining just the remote was easy.m

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Finally finished this project. A rule actuates both Fingerbots at 10:00 to lock both vehicles.

The difference in plunger length is due to the Avalon remote being aftermarket and is a different thickness.
Warning - the Google wake word is in the video.

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