How do we "know" HE won't go the way of the Wink?

[mark.cockcroft]

Does life 360 use HE servers?

[dman2306]

Curl just calls URLs... what would that serve to accomplish? Whatever URLs HE does have (like MakerAPI endpoints) you can certainly call via curl running on any PC

[bravenel]

There isn't really anything you could do from Linux. Hmm, stop the platform, reboot...

Everything doable can be done through the web ui.

[BrianP]

@dman2306

Curl just calls URLs... what would that serve to accomplish?

I use curl to send email through my SMTP server over SSL. Right now it goes through a telnet connection to my NAS, and my NAS performs the curl command.

[dman2306]

So you're saying you want HE to execute a curl command to something on the outside? I know you said you haven't played with groovy yet, but that'll be like 4 lines of code. Setup a schedule() - basically a cron, and call httpGet or httpPost or whatever method you need. And if you don't want to do code, RM can be used to create a rule to call an http endpoint.

[aaiyar]

In addition what @dman2306 has suggested, there is already an app for that, written by @erktrek

Email Notifications Driver using Node/sendmail on a PI

Not sure if people are interested but just created a very crude driver & Node App that allows you to send emails via a notification driver and a server running Node & sendmail. The driver just sends a simple REST post call to the Node http://[your ip]:3000/email which parses the text and uses sendmail to send out. I am using this in place of SMS alerts for now - US Cell providers have an email to txt message email address for each phone #. Again this is very crude and unsecure. Will be lookin…

[JasonJoel]

Email? Yuck. It isn't 1995.

[BrianP]

Yeah I saw that, but don't have sendmail running, and I can use curl. I planned to look through that code and get it to connect to my SMTP server (not local) over SSL, but haven't had the energy ever since my telnet hack worked.

[aaiyar]

I like getting my notifications by SMS (okay, so I'm old!). And there's still email2sms gateways running .....

[mik3]

Emails could be treated as weekly reports.

[JasonJoel]

I know, I was being a bit of a smart arse.

I will say, though, FOR ME if it doesn't come as an SMS or pushed notification then I'm never going to look at it.

[dman2306]

Can you give me an example (like paste the curl) of what you're doing? I feel like RM can do exactly what you want all through a UI, no coding.

[aaiyar]

@JasonJoel

FOR ME if it doesn't come as an SMS or pushed notification then I'm never going to look at it.

Yup. Same here.

[BrianP]

@dman2306

Can you give me an example (like paste the curl) of what you're doing? I feel like RM can do exactly what you want all through a UI, no coding.

Yes--I'll put it right here in a sec.

Here's the section that sends the curl command via telnet:

def emlRcpts = emlTo.split(', *') //support multiple comma-delimited recipients
String mailRcpts = ''
emlRcpts.each {
	mailRcpts = mailRcpts + "--mail-rcpt '${it}' "
}
def sndCommand = "echo 'To: ${emlTo}\nSubject: ${emlSubject}\nFrom: ${emlFrom}\nContent-Type: text/plain;\n${state.EmailBody}' | curl --url 'smtps://${emlServer}:${emlPort}' --ssl-reqd --mail-from '${emlFrom}' ${mailRcpts}--upload-file '-' --user '${emlUsername}:${emlPassword}'"//WARNING: username and password on command line! >:(

hubCmd = sendHubCommand(new hubitat.device.HubAction(sndCommand, hubitat.device.Protocol.TELNET))
log.info("Notification sent to ${emlTo}: ${state.EmailBody}")

The actual curl command is like:

echo 'To: email1@to.com,email2@to.com
Subject: Subject
From: email@from.com
Content-Type: text/plain;
This is the email body' | curl --url 'smtps://mail.server.com:465' --ssl-reqd --mail-from 'email@from.com' --mail-rcpt 'email1@to.com' --mail-rcpt 'email2@to.com' --upload-file '-' --user 'username:password'

[marktheknife]

@mark.cockcroft

Does life 360 use HE servers?

Life360 the platform does not. But the integration with HE presumably goes through the hubitat cloud as @ogiewon explained above:

@ogiewon

My understanding is that all of the Hubitat cloud integrations rely on the Hubitat Cloud Endpoint Server. This would include things like Amazon Alexa, Google Home, Ecobee, SharpTools, etc... All of these services rely on OAuth2 encrypted connections to the Hubitat hub, and those are all routed through the Hubitat Cloud server.

[JasonJoel]

@marktheknife

Life360 the platform does not. But the integration with HE presumably goes through the hubitat cloud as @ogiewon explained above:

Off topic, but I wonder how Home Assistant does it... It has Life360 integration, too, and I don't think it has cloud endpoints (?). Or maybe it does, I've never really thought about it, I just know it works (Life360 integration in HA - not HA in general ) .

[marktheknife]

If there were a way to get cloud integrations that could (securely) communicate directly with the hub that'd be pretty cool. Then we really wouldn't have to care if Hubitat went belly up .

[steve.maddigan]

Thank you Bruce. Well said.

[aaiyar]

@JasonJoel

I wonder how Home Assistant does it.

So does Node-RED. I'm guessing its through some kind of polling ......

[dman2306]

@JasonJoel

(Life360 integration in HA - not HA in general ) .

HA polls the Life360 server. Many HA plugins are really just polling under the covers: