What separate apps?
I guess I misunderstood post 3 where someone said you could run both apps. The certified one and the non certified one.
It was discussed somewhere by a dev that the plan would possibly be to keep the existing app as-is, as the un-certified integration app, and then add a new "certified" integration app. So in theory people could maybe run two integrations from one hub. All was speculative of course.
I suppose there could also just be the one app with an option to make it certified vs uncertified, in that case there would only be one integration app.
@j715 I would suggest just looking into running a Homebridge setup to do what you want. You can run multiple child bridges on there.
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Donât really have anything to run Homebridge on. My 2 hub solution just as good. So will stick with that then.
I think for anyone that just wants the HomeKit support that Apple allows you to have, this integration is a really nice addition. But if you want to do more, instead of Apple restricting you, installing Homebridge is pretty easy and there are several options, including a Docker container if you have a NAS that supports it.
Having the option to use Homebridge plugins is a bonus that I personally take advantage of. I wouldn't be able to connect my particular DEEBOT vacuum if I didn't have Homebridge. I can also get my Qinqping Air Quality detector Pro into HomeKit.
I was also able to get my Nest Protects using a Homebridge plug-in, but that integration has been broken since Google made changes to Oath recently. Not sure if the homebrdige-nest dev will put more into that, so I'm waiting for the HACs integration for HA to get updated, since that dev has put it on his to-do list.
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just finished the reset of my stuff. moved everything to homekit build in. then realized HSM wasnt support nor was my garage door opened (just the open closed status).
So moved those both back to homebridge and then did the wyze install for homebridge for a few more locks and now i have the best of both worlds. really nice to have
I have this same setup. Wasnât aware it broke 
now I need to check everything to verify. Thanks for the update!
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Might still work if you donât touch it. I was changing some things around and noticed it wasnât working afterward. There were two methods for login, one is no longer valid (thatâs the one I was using). Unfortunately the other method, which I used to use and it previously worked for me, now doesnât work.
Hopefully the HACS integration gets updated. I donât want to have to buy a Starling hub just for this.
Why does it matter? I am deaf-blind, and occasionally I have to call Apple Accessibility Support for assistance getting something to work. Something might be obvious to a sighted user who can see the whole screen, while it is not at all obvious to a blind person who can only see one item at a time. When I call Apple, and they do a screen share with me, and they see "not certified," some of the support people ignore this and give me what assistance they can, while others refuse to do so because it is not certified. This is why it matters to me. I would like to see the certification process completed to reduce the awkwardness of asking Apple for help with the devices I have exposed using the hubitat homekit app.
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The original post was not about what you are raising. I didn't say it doesn't matter to suggest it's not important, only with respect to the poster's thought that if certified the integration would support multiple homes (it won't, whether certified or not).
We want to obtain Apple Certification for our HomeKit integration, and are actively pursuing it. It turns out that obtaining certification for a hub is a difficult and involved process, one that we can't be 100% confident in achieving. Apple has ultimate control over the outcome. But, we are still pushing ahead with it and have made a significant investment in accomplishing it.
We also put effort into supporting accessibility for vision problems. My daughter is blind and uses JARS for her job, so I've been committed to this. When you find an accessibility issue, please let me know, and we will attempt to resolve it.
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Having helped with documentation in the past, I can attest to Hubitatâs commitment to accessibility. I think your experience with Apple support says loads about who they are as a corporation on the inside, versus what they spend millions to pretend to be. The ones who helped cared about you as a person, while the others cared about the policy first.
This question was also raised in another thread in a different context, and I wanted to respond to the question. But the thread was closed, and not accepting any more posts. So I wanted to get my two cents in somehow. Certification is creates issues that many people may not have thought of. That was the point of my original post. It was not meant as a complaint about hubitat. In fact, hubitat has, imo, done a wonderful job making its interface accessible to the blind. I do not use JAWS, but rather NVDA, and NVDA and Chrome have some rather quirky interactions with the hubitat portal. But these quirks also show up in other applications in chrome, so I do not believe hubitat is the problem, but rather chrome.
One problem I am seeing comes not from hubitat, but rather the community. Many people, instead of selecting the text from the web page, and then posting the text, post screen shots instead. Screen shots are not terribly informative to me.
Apologies if I ruffled some feathers. I was not pointing fingers at anyone intentionally. I just wanted to increase the awareness level of the complexity of the issue of certification. I have worked with Apple as a developer, especially when I was with Kodak, and I know how difficult it is to get any type of certification from them.
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Just for curiousity, is there a technical reason not to support 2 homes. Not complaining, just curious.
This is usually at the request of those who are helping others. It is far easier for them to understand what the individual they are assisting is seeing, rather than having to try and interpret what they might be seeing. To your original point, you are correct, I never would have thought about the challenges you face as a visually impaired person using a computer or HA system may face. Thank you for giving me something to consider.
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Ironically, for someone with old eyes like me, it is very difficult to read copy/paste text from logs compared to screenshots of the logs. So yeah, unfortunately, a lot of posts are going to have screenshots and there is no way for screen reader app to help with those.
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