Help me pick a zigbee repeater

I wish ikea made those repeaters for AUS & NZ !

They don't?! I thought Ikea's whole thing was world domination and compliance? :wink:

Since they are Zigbee, you should still be able to order some and just use USB power supplies for them (the repeater part is just the small USB dongle that plugs into the adapter). I've got one of mine sitting on my desk plugged into a USB port on my PC and it works perfectly. I'm sure you could work something out with someone in the US to order a few and ship them to you. :smiley:

AFAIK, Zigbee frequencies are the same in the US and AUS/NZ.

yep, that's a big "+" for Zigbee.

Ordering them from the US and getting them shipped in - probably too pricey ??
I might hit up friends or family traveling stateside to grab some. :slight_smile:

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Centralite was supposed to make one before they went under.

There is only one that you can buy that I’ve found, haven’t picked it up yet though, and it hasn’t been verified to work with HE yet. It’s also very expensive in my opinion.

There seems to be one made by Orvibo, but only found it sold as part of a kit.

Great to have a comeback.

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@zarthan
Love it!

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I have one of the Smartenit relays that runs the attic fan. It worked on SmartThings and works on Hubitat. It uses the Generic Zigbee Switch driver. The driver shows this information about the model and manufacturer: * model: ZBLC15 * manufacturer: Compacta

This appears to be the Smartenit product web page: ZigBee HA Dual Load Switch / Controller - Smartenit

I don't see any power statistics - don't know if that's due to the driver or the device itself.

Correction/Update:

I switched the driver over to the Generic Zigbee Outlet driver and the device page now shows an option for reporting power. I'm not sure why I used the Generic Zigbee Switch driver when I installed it. Chalk it up to a brain fart.

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As a real HE newbie I used 3 Tradfri USB repeaters from Ikea. They work well, with aqara sensors too...
Hope It can help you.

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@aaiyar +1 for the TrĂĄdfri outlets. Inexpensive, work well, Zigbee 3.0 and work the Xiaomi devices if you decide to play around with those at some point.

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@SmartHomePrimer @roberto

I ended up getting four Securifi Peanut plugs and three Ikea Tradfri outlets.

Equally important, I'm removing the Quirky/GE Outlink outlets.

Although my house is odd-shaped, I figure the combination of getting rid of devices known to intermittently drop off a zigbee network, along with the addition of seven devices reputed to function well as zigbee repeaters should make the zigbee mesh robust.

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Are you happy with your zigbee mesh now? Would you say that those outlets are helping?

Yes - I'm happy to state that I have no zigbee issues at all. No devices have fallen off. And I would say that the outlets have helped tremendously. From the perspective of appearance, the Tradfi outlets are ugly - so I have I have in spots that are out of sight. The Securifi Peanuts look marginally better.

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HI there, from your statement in this thread, can I assume that Xiaomi Zigbee devices dont act as repeaters?

Thanks

I'm not sure what I said that would imply that, but Xiaomi devices are (in this respect) like most other Zigbee devices: battery-powered devices are end-devices (not repeaters), and mains-powered devices (there aren't very many of these...) are routers (also called "repeaters"). So the answer depends on your device, but I think the vast majority of people here use mostly the battery-powered sensors, which are not repeaters.

What I was talking about was another issue: most "regular" Zigbee repeaters do not repeat well for Xiaomi devices, which can cause problems with the Xiaomi devices dropping off your network. These issues are well documented in this thread: Xiaomi & Aqara Devices - Pairing & Keeping them connected

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Just to clear up confusion that might exist, the IKEA TRÅDFRI are Zigbee 3 and generally decent Zigbee signal repeaters for Zigbee LL devices. They also are compatible with Xiaomi battery devices, which being not fully Zigbee compliant, do not play well with most repeating devices, but the TRÅDFRI and Xiaomi devices seem to “get along”

A critical point of the TRĂ…DFRI though, is there low cost also results in a signal that is not all that strong. So buy enough to compensate for that. How many depends on a number of factors, but some suggest the 6:1 rule.

I would be interested to hear what people are finding with their Zigbee HA devices and the TRÅDFRI outlets. For me, I only had two Sengled Element Plus bulbs (now replace by me and discontinued by Sengled) that were Zigbee HA. They refused to connect to a TRÅDFRI outlet only 10 feet away after more than two weeks time. What is the experience of others here that can verify with an Xbee? Are your Zigbee HA devices connecting through the Outlet? Or are they bypassing it an instead choosing the hub like my Sengled we’re trying to do (but constantly dropping instead)?

I can't remember, did you ever get an Xbee up and running? The reason I ask is I'm wondering if that Tradfri outlet's child slots are maxed out. I haven't had any issues with the outlets and other zigbee HA devices. Mesh has been solid for a very long time. When I analyze my map, it appears that proximity is the overriding factor in my end devices choice of repeaters. Maybe, those bulbs were just crap.:smiley:


BTW, I use the Sengled Color Plus and Classics. Those are Classics routing through a Tradfri plug.

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Affirmative!

Yes, I’ve had an Xbee working for a while now. I don’t run mine all the time. Just fire it up when I want to examine the network.

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The Ikea outlets may say they are ZigBee 3 but I think they should lose at least a bit because they are big and ugly. Maybe they should only be ZiGbEE 2 3/4. :wink:

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Surely you mean zigbee 3 1/2?