Goodnight routine - looking for ideas

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We are currently in the process of moving, going from a single story to a two story. In our old house, I currently have a rule that runs a goodnight routine at either a specific time, or if we go to bed early at the push of a button as we enter our bedroom. If my daughter is not home it will leave the hallway light on for her based on her presence. If she's home and still up, I will turn the hallway light back on since its easy for me to see if her light is on as I go to bed and in either scenario she manually turns off that one light when she goes to bed.

In the new house she will be downstairs and we will be upstairs and I am trying to figure out a way to handle the goodnight routine going forward. I am thinking of giving her a button in her room and using the pressing of each button to trigger actions specific to each area and then when both have been pressed running the full goodnight routine. I am really looking for ideas here if anyone is doing something similar. Also still trying to figure out how to handle the nights she stays at her moms.

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I don't have this kind of scenario myself... But a couple of thoughts...

Do you happen to have more than one HE hub? You could split some / all your automations between hubs for each floor, but still mesh them together so you can do some things across both floors when it makes sense. E.g. you could maintain a "mode" for each floor and manage some of your automations that way...

I guess the bigger question is, how exactly do you want it to work in the new house? What are the kinds of sequences of events that would typically happen.

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I echo @sburke781 in that I would consider multiple hubs with mesh. However, I believe that it may be a struggle to build a single routine to manage all of the options available...when are you going to bed, when does your daughter go to bed, lights needed, lights not needed, daughter not home at all...etc. You could use multi-button devices but then both of you have to remember what each button activates. I would suggest Echo Dots with verbal commands and routines for difference scenarios. That setup will require tweaking for nuances. But after a short period of time, I find it easy to remember various command phrases. And those routines can be initiated from almost anywhere and you don't have to physically go and tap a button device.

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Multiple routines seem like you best option (especially for two independent groups (daughter and you/significant other). I see at least three: Bedtime daughter, Bedtime Parents, Sleep time. Also, do not forget the ability to create groups of items to make it simpler. For example, I have a group "Cooking" that turns on all the kitchen lights as well as the various smart plugs in the kitchen.

Buttons vs Voice via (Alexa?), vs Hubitat phone app. Since you do not live alone, ALL. That way you can change things without disturbing other residents. A lot of the Hubitat Phone app, but sometimes button comes in handy.

As far as routines, discuss with your daughter what she does after you go to bed. Do not forget midnight snacks or early morning grab-and go with minimal disturbance to others. Example, being single, my three mains are bedtime (lock up, turn off non-bedroom lights), goodNight (turn off Bedroom/Bathroom ights and accessories not used while sleeping), GoodMorning (Bedroom and kitchen on, turn on tea pot to start heating water).

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I have a routine that when my alarm (Ring) is set to Home/Night mode, it sets the Thermostats (Ecobee) to Night Mode, and then 90 seconds later turns off all lights on my first floor and closes any open shades (Hunter Douglas). This gives me time to get upstairs before the lights go out.

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First - regardless of technical details (such as number of hubs, number of rules, etc.) you need a clear understanding what should be done based on events (time, somebody went to bed, somebody arrived/left, etc.) and conditions (day/night, pesent/absent, etc.). Another words - clear algorithms what to do and when. Once all this is clear the implementation should not be difficult.
In my case everything is near 100% automated. Me and my wife like to read something on tablets before going to sleep. The "good night" routines are triggered by either tablet turns off but only if a person already in a bed and time is after a "good night time". First triggered routine closes balcony doors and curtains, turns off main above bed light but turns one a nightstand light for a second person, turns off ceiling fan, turns on "sleep sound". A second triggered routine (this means both of us are sleeping) does the rest.
If guests are present a single button "guests present" changes a behavior of many mainly lightning related routines.
Everything is automatic. There is no needs for pressing buttons. And I am not using any voice commands at all (hate everything what is cloud-based).

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Unfortunately, my situation is much different. My wife and I have completely random schedules every day. So setting up routine automations just is not possible. We often need the flexibility that voice commands allow.

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Buttons are stateless, so you may want to use virtual switches to set you states and refer back to them. You could still use buttons as triggers, but also set virtual switches when the button is pushed.

A virtual switch gets flipped when a goodnight button is pushed in each area, so the state is checked for each area at the next push. Check when either button is pushed, what the state is of the other virtual switch.

You press goodnight -> Your virtual goodnight switch turn on, daughter's goodnight switch is off, so only turn out the lights in your room based on switch state. When daughter presses goodnight, it turn on her switch and it also checks the status of your goodnight switch. If it is on, you turn off daughter's lights as well as the rest of the house.

Same in reverse, if daughter uses goodnight first, only lights in her area turn off, if your goodnight switch is off at the time. Then when you use your goodnight button, it turns on your switch and it also checks if daughter switch is on, and if it is, also turn off all the lights.

Reset the switches to off in the morning with a rule to be ready for the next night.

We have an adult daughter that sometimes stays the night, and she sleeps on the couch in the living room. This totally messes up my normal routines for the front of the house. So I use a virtual "daughter home" switch, and when it is on, my front automations for goodnight don't run, since she wants to turn the lights off manually. I set it to auto turn off the next day. I just have to remember to flip it on when she is home. You could use this method for when daughter is NOT home, and reference that switch for automations that will change when she is not home.

I much prefer voice commands for goodnight over buttons, personally, especially for goodnight, as we say it after we are already in bed.

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I will be honest I am not sure I understand the logic behind using two hubs.

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This is kind of what I have been thinking. To address when she's not here I have been thinking that if shes not present when we go to bed run the full routine, if she then comes home have it turn on lights for her which she can then shut off again with her goodnight routine. I have multiple google devices for voice commands and while I find using voice commands super easy the rest of the family gets frustrated, hence the need for a button to be pushed.

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Yeah, even better is you are tracking presence for her, just trigger off of that if she is not present.

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YEP!

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Not necessary if a single hub will cover your home with good mesh strength in the periphery.

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The button could work, but she would have to not forget to push it. Same with Alexa/Google, you would have to actively tell it you were present.

Do you have a smart lock, and does she use that when she gets home? Maybe that could be a trigger for a routine? How about her phone, does it connect to Wifi when she arrives home?

Maybe consider a contact sensor on her door, and/or a motion sensor in her room? You could aggregate these sensors (along with the smart lock or Wifi presence) or to create a "daughter home" rule which then gets fed into other rules.

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If that is the case, and I am guessing you don't have multiple hubs already, then I think I will go back on my suggestion.... It was more relevant if you already had a multi-hub setup and were comfortable with working with multiple hubs, not that it is particularly difficult.

If you have a single hub, putting the device connectivity to one side, the only real benefits were being able to contain your automations in a nice neat package (each hub) and (in my mind) manage a separate "mode" per hub that you could leverage in you automations. If any of that is not easily available, then the pay-off is small enough that I would not recommend it,

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Thanks for the insight. I wasn't thinking about it from a mode perspective. I am ordering a C8 Pro to replace my C5 when we move in to the new house. I was just going to maybe use the C5 for testing purposes but the idea of a mode per floor I hadn't thought of and am finding intriguing.

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