Good Morning and Intro

Another brand new former ST user here. To begin with just want to do a dead simple scheduled espesso maker warm-up (turn on about 30 min before my wife's night shift alarm time, off again after she leaves, then on again before mine; I'll manually turn it off each day). ST never could get this right - it would show the event triggered but not trigger it and constantly lose contact with the Z-wave outlet. I hope y'all have better luck.

So far I think I might have a timezone issue as I'm seeing events 2 hours ahead of the time the hub reports it is (hub settings page time matches actual time on my computer) but I'll update location again and reboot hub and try again tomorrow.

Not sure if for simple generic switches (GE Jasco outlet) I need to poll or what besides just turning on and off. Right now for example I can check the page for that switch and it shows the state as off, whether I toggle it on or not (it does respond to the 'on' and 'off' buttons correctly, and does not respond to the wrong one ('on' if already 'on'), but it always shows itself as 'off'.

Anyway, early times yet. Mostly just saying hi; not sure what I'm permitted yet as a total noob fresh out of the discobot tutorial diapers. :wink:

Welcome!

After you select the correct time zone in your location settings, you need to reboot the hub in order for everything to display correctly. Then keep in mind that events will be sorted by time value, so your new time values may not be at the top of the event history list until you make up that 2 hour difference.

For the outlets, can you clarify if you are toggling via physical button press, or through Hubitat? Are they z-wave plus or older z-wave outlets? What driver did they pair with?

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Hi, thanks for the quick response. Apologies for being so slow to get back - crazy work last couple of days.

I did select the time zone and reboot the hub but after pairing the device if that matters. Possibly also after setting the Rule Machine on and off times, so I'll delete any rules (not the device) and try again soon.

If I go to the Devices page, it has paired as a "Generic Zwave Outlet". If I browse into the specific name I've given it for the Device Settings, I see 4 tiles "Configure" - "Off" - "On" - "Refresh" and a Current State text entry to the right of that. "Configure" and "Refresh" don't visibly do anything. "Off" will turn it off if it is on, and not toggle it on if it is already off. Similarly "On" turns it on if it isn't, does nothing if it already was. So it does seem like the hub knows which way it's flipped, and the radio is triggering it each time I press the on-screen button on my laptop - all good news. But the text under Current State always reads "switch: off" regardless ("Refresh" does not alter this either). That's troublesome but maybe that's only for Z-wave plus.

The Events log does show some off and on toggles that do not correspond to the programmed time just using Rule Machine. Does not seem to show any if I sit there and toggle off and on a few times (I did verify they were sorted by date/time column) and then refresh the log page, so I presume this log only shows things the hub did not 'manually clicking the button on the screen'.

This is a standard Z-wave not Z-wave plus, and its the older type that doesn't even have an on-device "exclusion" method, but I did the old-school switch off the breaker and hold in the button to drain any cap, then had wife switch on the breaker while holding in the button as well. That cleared up some issues a time or two back in the SmartThings days, until they decided to break everything again.

Not discouraged yet. I assume it's just growing pains. Like I said I'll delete all Rule Engine rules right now, reboot the hub again (although the Settings - Hub Detail page is showing a time that appears correct both numerically and with timezone letters) and try again fresh. I may have just got myself into an incorrect programming sequence. Starting errors like this I expect - I don't assume I know anything for the first month at least. :wink:

OK not sure what happened there (glances up). I think I may have had a success. I was able to program a test on for about 10 minutes away while sitting there and watched it turn on at the correct time, so my Rule Machine programming before the time zone reboot was probably the culprit. I also have to be very careful to finish the individual rules - hard to see from just the "List" if you've programmed a rule name but forgotten to actually apply an action...user error nonetheless. :roll_eyes:

I see it triggered the off after my wife left at ohdarkhundred this morn in the log. Still odd to me that the device page never shows the actual outlet on vs. off status, but I don't care what the page shows if it works. Tomorrow a.m. (Fri) is the full on, off, on rules test. Wifey will wake me and inform me in no uncertain terms if it isn't preheated for her. :ambulance:

Hubitat sends the commands.. it does not "optimise" like perhaps you found with WebCoRE. If you tell it to turn off after 5 min, it will send the OFF command. Nothing along the way cares if the device is on or off, it gets an off command. The Status issue is critical when you use it as a condition in a Rule.

You can see what happened via the device page and the Events button at the top. Within the Event log, are all the ons and offs.

Live log can help too when you have that running in advance, OR there's a limited number of previous logs available too. (Use the Logs button in the left menu and open it as a new tab.)

So, the funniest part is - I have no idea what "WebCoRE" is. Was that something with SmartThings?

Anyway, all good now. Single switch now does what I want when I want. Whether the device page shows any sort of currently valid status or not, as you said either an "on" or "off" command (not a toggle) is being sent, and I don't need to monitor the status in any way.

Will be adding a few lights (zooz switches probably at first), and a fan controller soon and get my door lock synched to the new hub now that I kind of have a starting clue. Also did pick up an Echo and will try and get that integrated for some voice control testing. Considering ecobee thermostats (was noodling them back in the ST days too but then ST got so unreliable). Not sure if I can hook in my sprinkler controller but it's the 2nd gen Spruce so it's just wi-fi with its own app, doesn't really "need" centralized integration for any reason.

I don't really have the extravagent plans of some here, I just wanted a few scheduled routines and maybe the ability to turn a few things on and off from the lazyboy. Maybe a vacation mode to give a bit of impression of presence when needed.

(The primary reason for the Echo is more to add some music capability for my wife, who currently just turns on the smart TV in the living room and cranks the A/V volumet so she can hear Pandora in another room, which is slightly annoying when I'm upstairs trying to slay digital aliens. Country music....sigh. Anyway, we have both Prime and Pandora so went ahead with the Echo instead of just Sonus so she can easily just 'use' it by asking. Once I do my job that is....eventually.)

yes, WebCoRE is a SmartThing reference.

Glad you are making progress. It gets easier with each success, although conquering the fails is quite fun too. :slight_smile: