Gotcha @csteele in this case where I have a problem with some ghost devices, if I had 2 hubs it would only affect one right? Maybe for $99 it makes sense to have an upstairs hub and a downstairs hub, in case one goes nuts like this one it only affects half of my house.
For the current problem I guess I have to wait till tomorrow when I get a zstick to remove it
I have 2 hubs (and a couple Hue bridges, and Homebridge). I was able to stop adding hubs, so don’t be afraid you’ll end up with 8 hubs 
An upstairs and downstairs hub makes since as long as you have enough devices in close proximity to each hub.
There is a Hub-aholics Anonymous meeting you need to attend. 
Check the misbehaving device's page and enable logging options if they are disabled.
Should/is the device page on mobile really slow? Like I click on a device to turn it and it turns it on very fast, but then I get a loading ring on the top right of that device, like its pulling the status but its takes forever to do so.
I was just looking at this myself. I replaced a switch this morning and was watching the device page as I physically updated the switch. There was a slight delay of only about a second. So forever is a bit too long.
Like i can click on devices go to the device it self and click on/off from my computer browser and it immediately responds. But on my iPhone, using the Habitat app, if i go to devices and i touch a device to turn it on/off i get spinning circle for about 1 min before it updates. If i use the Dashboard they are much faster... Maybe its an iphone app issue
I just tried this on the Dashboard in the app on the iPhone. When I turn on or off a dimmer or switch from the dashboard, the device reacts instantly, but the display updates Maybe 1 second later. When I physically turn it on or off, it seems to take between 3 and 6 seconds to reflect the state change on the app.
Seems to be about the same when I toggle the switch via the app, but is almost instantaneous when I toggle it physically from the switch.
