My 3 attic fans are not controlled by a smart switch. They go on and off on there own based on temperature and humidity. Are there any zwave or zigbee sensors that could tell me when a fan is on or off? Maybe something that measures current?
I have a couple of the Aeon ones, before supply problems caused the price to skyrocket, that are doing this current measurement (Power/watts actually) on my Washer and (gas) Dryer to tell me when the Laundry is done.
Choose wisely because they have fine print on the maximum power. They will shut off if the power exceeds their limit. I had an different product that had a 13amp limit that tripped a couple times. Had to replace it with the Aeon's to get the full 15amps.
On/off is easy - you need a current sensor switch with dry-contact output that is connected to a contact sensor.
To measure current you need a current sensor that is compatible with Hubitat, unless these are 120V fans in which case the outlets @csteele indicated would be perfect.
Thanks guys. Currently (no pun intended) they are all hardwired, so it would take some work installing outlets. I was hoping there might be a sensor that wraps around the wire.
There are current sensors that are Hubitat compatible, but you'll have to separate the load conductor from the neutral conductor. And place the current sensor only around the load conductor.
Here's an example of a current sensor that can monitor two of your fans (it has two CTs):
How would you use the Ecolink Contact sensor with this? Wouldn't it be more like the switching bit (SW) of a relay like the Zooz Zen16 or 17? Or maybe one of the smaller ones depending upon the load etc.
Can a regular motion detector (a PIR device) pick up a fan? Even after the fan warms up from running, there'll likely be no differential between the two PIR sensors in a motion detector.
Edit: The answer is in. I tried two PIR motion sensors (Aqara and Hue Indoor). Neither of them detects a fan moving.
Garage door sensor mounted on the fan blade. When it quits going OPEN/CLOSE/OPEN/CLOSE... you know its off. Just kidding. It would saturate the airwaves and probably fly off and kill something.
If I understand it closes the relay when power is applied. The Ecolink sensor has contact points you can wire to. So when the relay closes the contact closes, fan is on, when open fan is off.
Edit: Never had read through the complete literature, but it looks like it requires the contact to be tied to a load so I guess it wouldn't work for this scenario, or as I had envisioned using it.
Okay so you are seeing the same thing I was.. you could still use a relay though. The idea would not be to digitally turn things on/off but to detect on/off via the the Current Switch.
That will definitely work. I use a similar current sensor (from Functional Devices) to detect when my HVAC blower is running/off and use that to directly control an in-duct blower (no Hubitat involved).
I also have the current sensor connected to the external terminals of a GoControl contact sensor so I can raise/lower Sonos volume based on the HVAC blower state (automation through Hubitat). If I didn't have plenty of unused GoControl contact sensors, I would have used the Ecolink you suggested.
The first setup (in-duct blower) has been working for ~7-8 years without issue. The Sonos volume setup has been working for ~2-3 years, also with no issues.
Your suggestion is definitely one of the most robust ways to detect whether an electrical device is in use or not. And not difficult to setup.