C8 Feature Request for POE support

Mine goes up to 11.

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This would do fine.... https://www.amazon.com/DSLRKIT-Splitter-IEEE802-3af-Ethernet-Raspberry/dp/B07TJ3ZNJ4/ref=sr_1_5?crid=27O5RE0B5239I&keywords=gigabit+poe+splitter&qid=1673604888&s=electronics&sprefix=gigabit+poe+splitter%2Celectronics%2C68&sr=1-5

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Might as well include usb-c and wifi (the mini USB is too fragile)

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FCC specs show both

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Value engineering FTW. Though I don't understand adding WiFi when the dongles seem to work OK.

Well if pricing isn't different it's definitely a value add. If it is a tad more expensive, it's still better than someone having to buy the dongle, then the adapter as well and then worrying if they got a compatible one vs a built in one where it's engineered to work without having to buy anything. Though of course lan is always better.

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Right. Definite value-add.

WiFi became a "must" for devices like printers years ago for them to become a standard in consumer environments. HA devices will need to follow that lead to transition from more geek\nerd devices to something closer to a toaster, i.e., almost everyone has at least one. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Right, just like POE. Hard to see how an additional radio is costless and/or less costly than POE.

For some, not nearly all. For reference in 2022 a couple new higher-end home automation product introductions: a) RadioRA 3 processor only powered via POE, no WiFi, b) Control4 Core controllers WiFi via dongle only, 2 of 3 models can be powered by POE+.

I just purchased a fairly expensive, top tier consumer grade Wifi router. It has Wifi 6, USB-C, a 2.5 Gbps WAN Port, mesh capable, and nearly every other feature you can think of.

It doesn't have POE. Neither do any of their other mainstream routers. And the situation is probably the same if you have an ISP supplied router. I would speculate that for the average consumer, POE isn't here yet, it is a novelty.

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It does seem a bit odd that there are now lots of 'consumer' routers with 2.5G WAN ports and still few with POE. Pretty sure they are very few cases for multi-gigabit residential internet while the universe of POE devices seems to be expanding.

$50 for an unmanaged 5 port switch with POE+
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Compliant-Shielded-Optimization-TL-SG1005P/dp/B076HZFY3F

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RadioRA & Control4 Core aren't exactly broad general low-cost consumer-level stuff like HE. :slight_smile: Different strokes for different market segments. HE hits a significantly larger/broader market segment adding Wi-Fi connectivity support than POE, which is still much more of a niche/geeky market, regardless of falling prices.

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POE takes a LOT more components than adding wifi. That's why POE boards for rpi's are not a trivial price, for example. Not to mention it would likely require active cooling (or a much larger metal housing) as well, which the Hubitat hubs wouldn't need otherwise.

I would use POE if it were on the hub, but I completely understand why it is not and can just use a POE splitter.

Anyway, it is what it is. No product will be everything for everyone.

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