B30 matter light buld 3rd party app vs Straight habitat onboarding

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I've had trouble ZigBee my entire lifetime and I hate it. Now that matter become more of a thing I'm hoping to start switching out my bulbs. So I brought a couple of the wiz lights b30 to test with. So my questions this if the bulb has a matter bar code on it I should be able to add it right to habitat without using its native app correct? What I'm trying to avoid is the device being on boarded in two separate control planes.

Because in the WIFI app I'm connected via wifi and the bulb has to have a ipv4 address. Once I'm connected to the hub/c8 via matter I show ipv6 addresses. If I remove the bulb from the wiz app it also deletes the matter integration. Am I totally misunderstanding how this works or is what I'm talking about possible? Basically adding a bulb right to habitat without a 3rd party app?

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No, but may not need native app either. You could commission with Alexa, Google, or Apple instead.

Yes

Not possible (yet).

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FWIW, I have six Wiz PAR 38 wifi outdoor RGB bulbs connected to Hubitat. First connected to the Wiz mobile app and then joined to Hubitat with the Wiz built-in integration. They are connected locally and have run perfectly for at least six months.

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@bbrannon, guessing those are Wifi only devices, since you are using the Wiz integration.

@clockard192 is trying to use Matter over Wifi devices, which works a little differently.

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I understand that. But since they are also wifi can they work with the integration and simply ignore matter.

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Not sure, if they are talking to the Wiz app over ipv4 then yes they possibly support the traditional Wi-Fi communication without Matter.

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yea, I want matter without WIFI
I found These bulbs,

OREiN Matter Smart Light Bulbs BR30 Reliable WiFi Light Bulb with Matter LED 16 Million Color Changing Light Bulb No Need Additional APP Installation, 4 Pack

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Matter without Wifi would be Matter over Thread, then you need a Thread Border Router device, and you still have to commission it on something else before you can pair it to HE.

Otherwise, anything with Matter that runs on Wifi is using the Wifi / LAN to communicate. For Wiz as an example, it is just a difference of HOW it communicates, using propriety API / cloud connections, or using Matter which uses standardized communication methods over a special IPv6 mesh.

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You really can't. There is matter/thread and matter/wifi. Both require wifi and create their own ipv6 mesh for communication. Though with matter/thread you need a TBR (Thread border router)

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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