I am sooooo tired of the unreliable battery operated Motion Sensors I have. Hoping that a 800 series device might help. Its not listed as a Hubitat Compatible Device, but does anyone have any experience with this? Will it work, at least as a Motion Sensor, using a HE Generic Driver?
The consensus I’ve witnessed in this community is that there are very few (if any) reliable z-wave motion sensors. Many of us gave up and use zigbee motion sensors.
I’ve not heard of Atrim, but they do have a smart things driver for the device. (I know many HE drivers are converted ST drivers. I don’t have that skillset yet. )
Good luck. I’m glad to see another player making zwave devices.
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Just a heads up, in case you were not aware... Modern SmartThings device drivers (i.e. Edge Drivers) are not written in Groovy any longer. It was the earlier ST drivers that were easily ported to Hubitat. Many of those are still floating around, however all new/modern development on the ST platform is not easily ported to Hubitat these days.
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That said, Z-Wave is well defined and there are dozens if not hundreds of driver examples out there.
Any z-wave device that documents what it's parameters are can have a driver made for it with out that much trouble.
I use ring motion sensors for all of my motion sensors that aren't LoRaWan and they work great, although as some complain about they can be a bit slow if you have the sensitivity turned down (to avoid pets, or whatever reason). They seem as fast as the older zigbee motion sensors they replaced when on their most sensitive setting. Oh, and a lot of people complain that they're too big. But they're big because they have big batteries. It's subjective whether that's good or bad.
The NeoCam/haozee Zwave 700 multi-sensor was spectacularly fast at motion, but they are really hard to find. I wish I would have bought 5 or 10 of them instead of the just one I bought.
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TMYK Thanks!
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My Ring Gen2 motions sensors have been rock solid, I think I have like 6 or 8 of them vs. 3 hue indoor and outdoor motion sensors. They are comparable to the hue in terms of reliability and battery use.
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How are they on reaction time? That was the main complaint I read about which coincidentally matched my experience with an older Inovelli 4-1 motion sensor. I ditched the Inovelli 4-1 because I could get most of the way through the room before it would pick me up.
The reaction time I’ve seen has been comparable to both my hue indoor and outdoor motion sensors, a bit faster than a zooz ZSE18 that I have with them in both my garage and office.
I'll just say that in my testing of Ring G2 motion - response time varies GREATLY by the sensitivity setting. They CAN be fast, but depending on your settings may/may not be.
That isn't a slam, I have 3x of them, and like them. Just more data to make a decision.
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If you’re not opposed to Zigbee, have you thought about trying the Linptech 24GHz sensor. It’s USB powered and works great on my C-8. With proper placement, it can appear as fast as a pir sensor. I have number three coming tomorrow and plan on trimming down some of my other motion sensors.
Thanks all, for the information, above.
I have considered a Zigbee motion detector, but have not done so because I do not have any Zigbee devices in my network. And to be honest, I am not wanting to learn how to use/manage Zigbee devices, as it has taken years to become comfortable with the quirks of ZWave.
Perhaps my ZWave Motion Detector issues are not what they seem. 95% of the time my motion detectors work just fine, with 1-second response times for the associated lights to come on. But then... they will randomly start taking 3-seconds, 5-seconds, 10-seconds, before the associated light comes on. Sometimes the lights never do come on and I just leave the area. I don't know what the problem is, but I am hoping that a newer ZWave chip might help.
Part of my thinking is from my new Zoos Series 800 switch. I had a switch (Ring) outside in a very difficult location, with a metal fireplace between the switch and the HE. It always connected "Direct" to the HE but only had a 40K speed and many hundreds of Errors. I always thought that this device would be better off to route through another device, I switched to the 800 series switch and it immediately, and to my mind, correctly, routed to the HE via another device. Now has 100K speed and Zero errors.
Does the response time improve after a hub reboot? If so, maybe you run low on memory and simply need to reboot more often.
But if it is random, that wouldn't be memory related.
I perform an automatic reboot once per week. Don't know if memory is an issue. But I will add that when it happens, it tends to happen across all of the motion sensors at about the same time. Actually, don't even know what a "low" value for free memory is. I have Hub Information Driver V3 installed, but have not watched any of the parameters. Think I'll write a Rule that will notify me if FreeMemory (currently: 555K), CPU5Min (currently: 0.12, is this 1/10 of 1% or 12%?), or DBSize (currently: 3), are a problem?
Any suggestions for what "problem" values for these parameters are?
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Those all look fine.
Memory is the only one I watch semi-closely. And "too low" depends a lot on what apps/drivers/# of devices a hub has.
I try to keep mine above 200-250k, but some run much lower than that so YMMV.
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Anybody know which driver will work with the Atrim 800? Has anyone set this up?
I haven't heard of anyone using it, Being Zwave, I'm inclined to think it might work with the Generic Zwave driver. Or for $20 less you can get a Zooz ZSE18 800 LR motion sensor.. this was recently re-released with the zwave 800 chip.
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