I am looking for a zigbee thermostat. No, not using zwave thanks. I would try Wifi in a pinch.
I tried the compatibility list - but of the choices, most are 'not available' and the other ones seem to connect indirectly (HA etc). I used to use a Centralite and it was perfect, but it was left behind in a move.
I have forced A/C and Heat, brand new system. I have G, W, C, Y and RC connected currently to a Honeywell Home unit (not smart sadly) using wires Grn, White, Blue, Yellow, and Red respectively.
I keep seeing Xfinity units with the word Centralite and the price is a 1/3 of all others but that just scares me. I've always paid about 80-120 for thermostats over the years (this is I think my 3rd. I did a zwave unit before but past is prologue.)
so. knowing its a boring thread - anyone with a simple 'this.' and I'm good?
You don't make it clear why you have the opposition to Zwave, but I would take Zwave over IoT wifi to keep things local. The Honeywell T6 Pro Zwaves are very popular, and they are rock solid for staying connected and responding to commands, at least for me.
If you are going wifi, stay away from Honeywell. They limit their API calls and updates are slow. I dumped my Honeywell wifi thermostats when they started taking minutes to update locally after a setting is changed via the cloud integration. Maybe other brands still do instant cloud updates, but you also lose local control and gain an internet dependency.
Hi - I've asked this question before and didn't feel the answer was what I was looking for and thought I'd try again.
I wish to implement a thermostat. it MUST be zigbee. as politely as I can, pls do not tell me zwave stuff.
My problem is determining the type of thermostat - by that I mean models. I see units that say "water floor, gas, boiler' and other descriptors but I get confused as I have none of those.
What I have is a forced air heater with air conditioning. I'm trying to find something like a Moes or basic model thats sub $100, and works with HE. The 'compatible device' list connects to discontinued items so it was of no use. Trying different approaches just got me more confused (HA bridged? Wifi?). I do have a C Wire.
Can anyone point at a basic thermostat that I can use for a USA type home that hasn't any wierdness? Thanks for your time.
I ran 2 of these for a while and they work great with Hubitat. I bought them from Lux quite a while ago and it seems they changed the purchasing option where you need to request a quote. Definitely worth looking into if you need a Zigbee thermostat.
How many heat and cool stages does your A/C equipment have? If you have a single stage system (1H/1C), then the Centralite Pearl or Lux Konoz are excellent suggestions for Zigbee thermostats.
Another choice is the Zen thermostat, which will also work with 2 stage systems:
If you have a C-8 Pro, then ecobee WiFi thermostats can also be controlled LOCALLY by Hubitat.
I've requested a quote on the Konoz device. I see units like this on Ebay but they seem to be wifi, I'm a c7 so that may be an issue.
The Zen unit - it looks promising - the web page linked says 'specific uses for Air Conditioning' - that sounds like it's not for a heater? the price is a bit up there - was really hoping this was about 1/2 that but I'm willing. I'll try some other recommends first.
years back I had a centralite and when I moved, I left it behind. it worked perfectly and that was 3-4 yrs back in HE world. I've ordered this off ebay. I'm hopeful.
Your second link is to the Zen unit also mentioned below - I've put that on the 'if the centralite doesn't work' options list. thanks!
I'd go this way (and did). Ecobee are reliable and feature rich thermostats, support external Ecobee sensors, and Hubitat provides local control. Win-Win-Win for me.
I've seen the Sinope in my searches - What is 'Low Voltage'? Isn't that for baseboards? I don't have baseboards so I negated on this option.
It's a nice looking unit, I prefer it to be wider than tall so it covers the unpainted area beneath my existing unit, but I bailed on it as it seemed pricey, I didn't see an explaination of 'Low Voltage' and it said it requires a sinope gateway.
Maybe someone can explain:
Baseboard
Water, floor gas, boiler
Low Voltage
Stages
A/C vs Heater/AC
c-Wire vs non-c-wire
heat pump?
Are thermostats actually just more or less generic? When hubs are called for, are thermostats vendor specific or can you use your HE hub like most Zigbee devices?
These options are commonly found on thermostats designed and manufactured in China…
Water – Controls a hydronic heating system, such as underfloor heating or radiator systems using hot water circulated from a central boiler.
Floor – Controls electric underfloor heating, where heating cables or mats are embedded under the floor surface.
Gas (Boiler) – Designed for gas or combi boilers, controlling water temperature or room temperature by switching the boiler on and off via a relay output.
Keep in mind that most thermostats engineered in China do not meet U.S. safety certification standards, and many also have issues accurately handling temperature setpoints in Fahrenheit.
Yup - the relatively new Hubitat Homekit Controller is available on the C8-Pro.
Regarding stages...I knew my system was single-stage, because my HVAC guy told me. For more info, Google says...
Most multistage systems can be recognized by the wires attached to the thermostat . Single stage systems will only have one wire for heating (in the W or W1 connector) and one wire for cooling (in the Y or Y1 connector). Single stage heat pumps only have Y1 for both heating and cooling.
You can pull off the your current thermostat off its mount (usually a direct pull or releasing a holding clip on the bottom) to see what kinds and numbers of wires you have.
Low voltage means the thermostat doesn't directly control the load, but instead commands a relay or control unit to which the load is attached, such as a furnace, boiler, heat pump, etc.
Baseboard thermostats usually directly control the load (they are sometimes called Line Voltage Thermostats).
Even though it can be joined directly to the hub without needing their gateway, since you have A/C, that Sinope unit won't work for you.
For more info, Google says...
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