I am still pretty new to this hub and tuya intergration. I know, this has been talked about many times, but my question is an observation with question.
Now, I will need someone to point me in the right direction for renewing my trial at tuya iot. Thanks with a wonky smile. Lol
Next, I can still see my devices in hubitat and I can still read the temps on the displays for the five I have paired with the tuya zigbee hub.
In hubitat, I am using the (generic zigbee omni device driver) and it reads the temp and humidity fine.
(Side note, the driver hubitat automatically picks is (tuya temperature humidity illuminance LCD Display with clock) it does not work with the zth05 lcd temp and humidity sensor.
I decided to try something out and now I am really confused. (It happens often). Hehehe
I took one ZTH05 and paired it with the hubitat hub instead of the tuya zigbee hub. It sees the sensor and it paired ok. Next, I go to the driver and change it to the one I am using for the other sensors, but it does not get the data.
Let me know if you need anything and I will be glad to get it.
About others experience renewing the Tuya 'developers' account it may be better to ask in the [BETA] Tuya Cloud Driver (Limited device support) thread, By some unknown to me reason, my account does not expire, so I never had to renew it
On ZTH05 (is that printed on the box?) - that's a very problematic device to be used with any other hubs different than Tuya's. It was lastly discussed here :
Like I said though, I am able to use the zte05 units to run my automations in hubitat using that driver, but if I try to use that same driver after pairing the zigbee sensor in hubitat it will not work. I don't get it. Lol I am trying though. I mean, if the driver works on one zigbee (tuya) hub, it should work on the other zigbee (hubitat hub)
Also, thanks for the other link for the tuya iot part. I will tey it later. Finally going to sleep.
And that's why many of us here are gunshy about using Tuya zigbee stuff...
Historically, Tuya's adherence to zigbee interoperability standards has been frustratingly spotty.
That does seem to be getting better these days (due to ZB3.0 maybe? I dunno), but as evidenced by this ZTH05, it's still something you can run into.
We're very blessed to have @kkossev here -- from everything between creating great Tuya drivers to documenting problematic Tuya devices for greater awareness, he is single-handedly making Tuya possible for many Hubitat users -- thanks Krassimir!
YES, Krassimir has been a life saver so far. I have been teying to wrap my head around the problem. I guess until I can learn more, then i can try to see why tuya can get the values and pass them on to us. It seems (I know, it saounds easy) but some zigbee devices hubitat cant seem to pull values from.
Forget about me for now, I am new and I want to learn so I ask a lot of questions and sometimes i find the answer by accident. Lol.
I was hoping it is something like that and Krassimir will go, OH, thats what I needed!
@hydro311 explained that Tuya doesn’t follow zigbee standards. Their devices can pair to their hubs, but as you’ve found, it isn’t always possible to pair them to Hubitat. That’s on Tuya, not Hubitat.
The connection between the Tuya hub and Hubitat has nothing to do with zigbee. The Tuya hub can talk to tuya’s cloud server, and thanks to @kkossev’s driver, Hubitat can do that too.
While that makes it possible to control Tuya devices, the only zigbee communication remains between the Tuya hub and the Tuya devices.
The Tuya devices that are created on your Hubitat hub as a result of @kkossev’s integration are abstracted (virtual) devices that represent the Tuya devices.
The drivers for those devices have nothing to do with zigbee because at that point, as far as Hubitat is concerned, these are effectively not zigbee devices.
I'd just add one additional bit of info to hopefully help close this loop for the OP...
The Tuya cloud-based (wifi device) community driver was developed a long time ago by Jonathan B, and Jonathan has since moved away from using Hubitat.
I think he's still accepting pull requests via GitHub for at least some of his stuff (not sure about the Tuya cloud driver specifically), but he's not active here in the community.
Krassimir has focused on Tuya zigbee (and Matter) integration with Hubitat, but he's (wisely, IMO!) stayed away from that wifi stuff.
The whole Tuya universe is like a vast wild west; zigbee and matter is plenty enough cats to try to herd -- trying to integrate their wifi stuff is a whole 'nother level of pain.
Maybe Matter will eventually help with that, but TBD.
Oh my, and thank you. REALLY, thank you. Now that makes more sense to me explained like that. While i will admit to being a noob with home automation, but i do have some experience with programming plc's for industrial processes and i dabbled in visual basic and i was rather good with cobalt back in the day.
Yes, i saw that about Jonathan. I opened an account in ha tried to im him but i never received a reply and i have no other way to contact him to even ask, so it is what it is and i will have to find some suckercto buy my wifi crap and any zigbee devices that are not compatable with hubitat because i want local control because my wife does get upset with me when she cant turn something on because of me. Lol.
I have messaged him a few times already and i hate to bother just one person all the time. I have been in his position a few years back (win 98 support) and it can get messy trying to do your own stuff and getting slammed with requests for help. I just told them nicely that i would get to them as soon as i could.
I probably need to read the documentation some more. Hehehe
Is there a dedicated thread for this driver? Over the summer I picked up some cheap deck lights that came with a Tuya hub (branded CloudyBay). I'm limping along with some modifications to the old cloud integration, but I'd be excited to try to get off of that if possible.
I am not quite sure that I understand what do you mean by ''.. but if I try to use that same driver after pairing the zigbee sensor in hubitat it will not work.'
Let's start by identifying which device we are talking about. Please follow these instructions :
Sorry I don’t use Tuya devices myself. So I could be conflating the cloud-based integration developed by someone else with @kkossev’s work to integrate Tuya zigbee devices.
But if I’m understanding the OP correctly, when Tuya zigbee devices are connected to a Tuya hub, it’s possible to use the cloud integration to control those zigbee devices.
