I am sorry to hear of your frustrations. If I was experiencing the same problems I would likely feel exactly the same way. My C5 has always just worked, never had much of any problems with it. I think it is obvious now that they rolled out the C7 without the appropriate testing. I imagine they real…

Like others my home installation has been running Z-Wave and Z-Wave+ devices for years. Have since replaced all older Z-Wave devices with ZW+ ones and everything continues to work. The only Z-Wave(+) specific issues I've encountered on Pre-C-7 hubs have been with inadvertently pairing non-border de…

[image] jeubanks: most if not all of the HE founders and staff all use Lutron and Zigbee For the record, I don't have any Lutron, my home runs 60/40 Zigbee/Zwave, I am the least, most, I guess :slight_smile:

[image] bobbyD: For the record, I don't have any Lutron, my home runs 60/40 Zigbee/Zwave. Good to hear. Lots of Zigbee :rofl:

[image] Stephan.J: I really don't think the users on this forum who are continually suggesting Lutron as a solution to zwave issues, realize the damage they are doing to the Hubitat brand. I disagree with your premise. A lot of users prefer to know the information of which devices "work best…

When the original poster of this thread, was told (by several users) that the solution to his problem was to go with Lutron, this is what he posted: [image] Discussion about the C7 I'm also aware of the advantages to Lutron, but I'm not prepared to make a wholesale switch yet and it's irrelevant…

[image] Stephan.J: that the solution to his problem was to go with Lutron Not "the" solution "A" solution There have and will always be "issues" with all home automation Even the slightest research on this forum will show you: Lutron has the least amount of reported issues. Zwave has the…

[image] Discussion about the C7 There is no "help" other than above. Hubitat is "aware of" the issues, Has reported they are working on "fixing them" and only they have that ability to fix them This is incorrect. I provided the original poster with a solution, here it is: [image] Stephan.J…

That solution is flawed, as I have 3 hubs and one specifically dedicated to Zwave ONLY and still have zwave issues.

I will let the original poster decide if he thinks my solution will alleviate some of his problems. If you read the thread, you would see that he also stated his zwave devices had no issues on his C3. Read the thread, please.

[image] Stephan.J: If you read the thread, you would see that he also stated his zwave devices had no issues on his C3. Read the thread, please. I did read this thread. I also know that correlation never equals causation.

[image] Discussion about the C7 By your logic, when a poster starts a thread asking for help with a zwave issue, that thread should not provide a solution to getting his device working, but should rather promote a wholesale change to another protocol, not to help the original poster of the thread…

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Stephan.J October 28, 2020, 4:55pm 32

This is incorrect. I provided the original poster with a solution, here it is: