ActionTiles coming to Hubitat apparently!

No thanks, we have plenty of developers, that have a community spirit.
Maybe we should start sending bills to all the people we've given advice to or helped out?
Something about him charging really irks me, and I'll never support that

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I didn't come from Smartthings, don't know him, so I can only go by his site.

I don't mind a nominal fee or occasionally donating for certain things, but his stuff seems to be pretty premium priced for what you get. Maybe it is worth that price, but I get more of a over-hyped used car ad feeling on his site than anything.

It may not have been what you suggested as the way you suggested it. I dunno I didn't see the post, but that's how it usually goes.

I'm having a hard time understanding what makes it different than what's already built into Hubitat? The screenshots make it look exactly like what is already here...

LOL, that’s actually not a bad analogy. I’m not sure what the big deal is either. RBoy has a skill I don’t, so I decided to pay for access to his site (where you can see what you’re buying before paying). If someone doesn’t think a license for his code is worth paying for, then of course one is under no obligation to pay for it.

I thought he was generally a helpful member of the ST community over the years too.

:man_shrugging:

Edit: his tech support person was also very polite to interact with by email. Her name was Maddie IIRC.

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It’s been quite a while since I used ActionTiles, but I remember the process of tile creation and placement on a dashboard to be much simpler than how it works with the built-in hubitat dashboard.

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Something changed with them - they used to be interested in improving things, but not anymore. From a quick look at their community, there's hundreds of open feature requests and no progress. And those are just the ones they didn't outright close!

And the outage announcements are right there for anyone to see - they either blame Google or Samsung for every outage. I know SmartThings has lots of outages (that's why I'm here), but every outage can't be completely someone else's fault. It's a red flag when companies don't take ownership of things going wrong.

Compare that to what's happening here in the Hubitat community with an actual interest in user feedback and constant improvements.

I think Terry passing was a massive blow, in far more than one way.

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:astonished:

That is really sad news.

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Happened tail end of last year from memory, very sad indeed :cry:

December 16th, according to the announcement Alex made in the ST community. He may have been sick for a period of time before that, hard to tell.

AFAICT, ActionTiles was pretty much a two-person operation (or that's how it appeared for a few years in the ST forum at least).

So yeah I imagine it could have been pretty tough for them to bring their A game, possibly for quite a while before his death.

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It works well and scales well (and can easily be made to look good) on just about every size device; tiles have nice features like animated icons (though I l think the selection of icons though extensive, is kind of odd and lacking things you really would expect), nice glowing/pulsing effects, rotating fan, etc. Tiles can be set with view only security, different inform/warn/alert styles, etc. All in all well thought out.

It even looks great on my Wink Relay (no other dashboard seems to support that ancient level of Android). It also is a modest one time fee. I don't want to subscribe to a dashboard service...

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Not wanting to hijack this thread, but back in May we added a calibration in smartly for Wink Relay and Fire HD 7 (tested on austin, early gen). These screenshots are from the 7, using a custom calibration for forcing 2 columns wide (normally calibrates to 3) and 150% zoom (user needed readability) on portrait, running stock FireOS (Android 4.3) and we didn't seem to have any issues for the Wink Relay user either. @Sebastien had the wink, @tmichael had I think a Fire 7.

I believe the issue was more that fully kiosk browser didn't work on 4.3, not necessarily that HE dashboard had issues? Those guys will know.

Will subthread if it turns into a discussion, but wanted to get that out there!

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That looks good. I was never able to get the stock HE dashboard to run on the Relay (I tried Chrome, Firefox, and Opera). It has probably been a year since I tried it, tbh.

I like using ActionTiles on the Relay because of the information density it allows on the small Relay screen; I could even get more tiles on there by scaling them a bit and it remains useable.

Kind of silly but I also like the animated icon effects (bouncing up/down arrows, animated motion icons, revolving fan, etc.). You can go nuts fine tuning the appearance (choose the radius of the tile edges, if you want them rounded, etc.). Pretty easy to make changes, too.

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I think it works as of May, but the fellas will be able to say for sure. I just remember adding the calibration for Wink and everybody was happy :slight_smile:

I realize the picture I posted was the opposite of information density lol. here are some other options.. one could make the argument that HE has the potential for more information density because of the ability to change the height of tiles. I don't remember AT having that option, but I haven't touched AT in a while.

stock smartly WINK calibration, 3 column - stock spacing, rounded corners

calibration for 4 column - smaller spacing, less rounded corners

No man I feel you, they are good! If I remember correctly, there is a dropdown to select the different effects for the tile in AT. It's a nice feature, and 100% possible in HE now that we have JS working. I'll definitely put it in an an smartly enhancement, because I'd like to see it too. :metal:

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Sorry for the OT, but FWIW, agree 100% that Rboy has very good stuff and his tech support person was very nice, prompt, and solved any problems I had.

I used Rboy's Lock Manager app on ST (after Ethayer's stopped working reliably for me) and Rboy's was really full featured and (most importantly) rock solid 100% free of issues for me. Super easy to set up my lock and manage notifications and such all in one place. Well worth the lifetime payment while I was using it.

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ya i wish lock manager was heare. i started trying to port it for myself but not that easy.

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I liked AT as I could have 1 dashboard set up which worked in portrait and landscape

Yes that's more like it. But that is a 7" screen, right? The Relay is only a 4.3" screen; here's a shot of 6 colums x 10 rows on its tiny screen.

I just changed two settings (min tile size and radius 0) and came up with this; tiles re-flow automatically (I remember going crazy trying to lay out an HE dashboard grid). Actually still useable (well at least if your eyes are better than mine lol). What's nice is that tile content and header/footer size can also be independently scaled, as well to make it even more readable. I'm a fan of the minimalist look also since I mainly use this for checking the status of things at a glance. You can select which things 'jump out' at you by setting different inform/alert/warn styles and effects.

For fans of information overload:

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Oops, just noticed the wink has the same viewport width as the HD 7 at 480px. Those screenshots are of the 7 viewport. Here is the layout with wink dimensions.

@mark.cockcroft calibration in smartly calibrates for both portrait and landscape so one dash, multiple devices, multiple orientations kinda just snap to the right columns shown.

MOAR DENSITY! with @media breakpoint calibrations, you can go crazy. Note that actiontiles allows custom CSS as well, so technically breakpoints can also be used in AT.

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