[2.4] Request - Bigger CT range in Homekit

Right now, the low-end of the HomeKit color temperature is higher than the range I'd usually set for it. Can we get a lower range on it, or an adjustable setting for it? It'd be nice if we could get at least to 2000K.

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What are you looking for? I have Nanoleaf element bulbs that I run in the 2000 - 2200 range on a regular basis with HomeKit. Granted those are RGB bulbs, but could it be a bulb limitation? I have some Inovelli Zwave bulbs that don’t go below 2700. That’s a bulb limit though, not HomeKit.

But do you integrate those through Hubitat or are they directly paired to Homekit (via Matter possibly)?

This might be a similar issue to the thermostat issue reported and fixed recently, where the value range is set by the bridge when the device is shared (Hubitat in this case).

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Yes. Currently through home kit via matter. Thought it did dawn on my today to possible try and see if I could include them directly. At the moment, since updating to .131 home kit seems to be very unstable (as is very evident by these bulbs which have been stable for months). Bad enough I'm considering going back to .127 again .

I’m using the Hubitat built-in Zigbee driver, which itself does 2000k. HomeKit won’t go below 2500k.

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Tagging @gopher.ny from Hubitat.

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There’s LIFX bulbs that go down to 1500K. It would be very nice if the HomeKit integration supported whatever range the Hubitat device driver supported ….

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Ahh two differences then. I'm using Matter over thread via home kit. Looked at it this afternoon, the warmest I can go through homekit is 2100k.

Probably based on what the device supports instead of an arbitrary value like the HE HomeKit integration seems to be doing.

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Just to clarify for others that might be trying to follow what is being described in this thread...

Apple used to call its home automation platform "Apple HomeKit". These days, it is called "Apple Home". "Apple Home" supports 4 main protocols:

  • Apple HomeKit over Ethernet/WiFI
  • Apple HomeKit over Thread
  • Matter over Ethernet/WiFi
  • Matter over Thread

Hubitat supports exposing/sharing its devices with Apple Home via Apple HomeKit over Ethernet/WiFi. This scenario is what the OP is requesting be improved.

Apple Home supports sharing its Matter devices with Hubitat via Matter over Ethernet/WiFi.

Apple Home cannot share its HomeKit connected devices with Hubitat.

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Isn't that what is happening when you use the pairing code from Apple Home to add a device to habitat?

Try it for a HomeKit-only device and see what happens. :smiley:

The real answer: you won't be able to, since you can't do that. It does work as described above. This uses a Matter feature called Multi-Admin that "shares" the device with another Matter Fabric. Apple Home isn't involved at all except to put the device in pairing mode to generate this code.

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No, the device connects directly to Hubitat in that case. Matter devices can sync the state across multiple hubs. There just has to be one main hub which commissions the device first.

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ahh, thank you for the clarification. I didn't ealize there was a difference. Although at the moment I can't get anything matter (Thread or wifi) to be found by hubitat. Im sure its completely unrelated to this thred though.

Created a small app because this was bothering me. Hopefully this will work for you until its fixed upstream