Zooz vs Leviton 800 series Zwave Light switch

[jtp10181]

The air gap is required for all smart dimmers because they let tiny voltages through even when off. You are supposed to air gap when changing the light bulbs.

That is the only reason the air gap is there, it is not for your convenience.

Also the air gap may not even shut the entire switch down, it is only required to disconnect the load AFAIK. A breaker flip is the only way to be sure the entire devices is cut off.

[pexer95039]

I changed my mind about earlier. It seems like there are some bugs with Hubitat's ZWave LR implementation.

For example, if you reboot the hub, Z-Wave LR devices won't work. You have to send on/off commands several times before they start responding. Once it responds, the problem is "permanently fixed" until the next reboot.

It also seems more difficult to unpair a LR device. It seems to make ghost devices extremely easily.

I have moved away from LR to the standard Z-Wave mesh for my Zooz devices. However, I might try LR again in the future to see if Hubitat fixed some of these bugs.

[jtp10181]

@pexer95039

It seems to make ghost devices extremely easily.

Yes it is pretty buggy still. The ghost devices usually go away when you reboot but a few people have had them get stuck permanently. Since there is no mesh though they do not do anything besides be annoying to look at.

[velvetfoot]

@velvetfoot

I was told recently by Zooz that it doesn't plan to offer a toggle switch with a lighted toggle. Their 800LR series paddle switches have a color changing led on the surround.

I just did a mod on a spare ZEN73 toggle switch that makes the led "pop".

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@pexer95039

For example, if you reboot the hub, Z-Wave LR devices won't work. You have to send on/off commands several times before they start responding. Once it responds, the problem is "permanently fixed" until the next reboot.

I just now rebooted my C8 hub running the latest production firmware. Walking around the house, everything worked: motion, contacts, buttons. At this point, I'm mostly 800LR.

[dcaton1220]

@pexer95039

For example, if you reboot the hub, Z-Wave LR devices won't work. You have to send on/off commands several times before they start responding.

First I've heard of that. I have 16 LR devices and have never experienced that, or any other problems with LR devices for that matter.

Are you sure you don't have any ghosts remaining?