Zigbee 3.0 and C7 hub

For starters I have devices that won't downgrade to current zigbee. I'd like to use them second isn't it logical to upgrade zigbee since you did zwave ?

if this is the case then these aren't really Zigbee 3.0 certified.

Every ledgit zigbee 3.0 device (except green power) I've tested has worked just fine...

not really, apples and oranges...
Huge difference between 700 series with S2 and smartstart support and 500 with only S0, Zigbee zha 1.2 and zigbee 3.0?, not that big of a difference...


Apples and oranges.... that really isn't the point is it? And there are big differences between current zigbee and 3.0, you guys should read the specs if you haven't.

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I have read it, we aren't doing Zigbee 3.0 right now.


Can you at least provide us some approval that EM3581 supports ZigBee3.0 and just firmware upgrade could be enough to get ZigBee3.0 for C-5 or C-7 hubs?
Thank you.

We are not working on zigbee 3.0 at the moment, and we do not have it in the current pipeline.

I say again, with the exception of green power devices, what specificially does 3.0 inherintly provide that we are missing?

In other words, don't just toss me the spec, or tell me there's cool stuff in there, tell me why you think you need it right now or near term.


Which part of higher number = better do you not understand??? You will never succeed in marketing with that attitude.

(Disclaimer: all of the above was meant as a joke. I am also very curious if there are other needs for zigbee 3.0 that I'm not aware of.)


So true...


Case in point - Ubuntu vs Debian. I mean who wants to be running Debian 10 when you could be running Ubuntu 18?


18? Pfffftt. I only install 20.04 now. 20>18. You lose. :wink:


True dat.

Edit: Just remembered I did update sometime in May to Ubuntu 20.04 ....

While OT, I will admit I usually install Kubuntu as being a legacy Windows guy I like KDE.

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Ubuntu on my NUC, Armbian on my SBCs.

You guys need to get out more :grinning:


Nowhere to go. Stuck at home and getting stranger by the day :crazy_face: Soon I'll be talking to my :volleyball:




We could add it to our Hue bridges along with those Sylvania bulbs :wink:
Just a joke btw. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
In all seriousness, I think people may equate Zigbee 3.0 with better behaved, more reliable devices. More likely that the tech has just matured, not due to the 3.0 spec.

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The only thing I can think of is it is more compatible with a wider range of "legacy" devices since it essentially can handle all the various zigbee standards? No need for additional bridge type hubs etc.

This to me at least seems useful but whether or not its worth it in a business sense relative to the increase in design/production costs I'm guessing probably not.

So they just came up with an entire new spec for no reason?

New hub, going to charge for some cloud service instead of allowing seamless local backup of zwave and no interest or timeline at all to keep up with latest Zigbee tech. My enthusiasm is dropping rapidly.