I understand the 4-color indicator can't be seen with the wall plate installed.
Would it be possible to drill a little hole so that the led can be seen?
Thanks.
I understand the 4-color indicator can't be seen with the wall plate installed.
Would it be possible to drill a little hole so that the led can be seen?
Thanks.
I found a picture on line that shows location of the led.
I don't see why I couldn't do it.
Anyway, ordered a couple.
Will let the group know how it turns out.
Maybe will use @jtp10181 's Universal Switch Driver on it.
My normal ZEN driver should expose the settings for the LED on the toggle switches and dimmers even though Zooz does not document it very well.
The one I have installed I set it to blue, full brightness, and to be on when light is off. You can just faintly see it through the plate and it works as sort of switch locator in the dark.
Maybe instead of drilling a hole through the plate, you could drill a hole from the back side but without going through the plate completely, just to make it possible for the LED to be seen through the plastic.
if you drill just a hole, you will need a pretty big hole or you won't see it unless right in front of it. Instead drill the hole for a light pipe for a cleaner look, this way the LED can be seen at an angle and will be bright. Light pipes are available in many forms, I would use a clear or frosted press fit panel mount model, just cut it at the desired length and fit in the hole you drilled (ad some CA glue if needed on the back).
Excellent!
Thanks!
Now to find a 3mm drill bit, lol.
I'm fooling around with my new ZEN73LR toggle switch.
My assumption was false: the led appears to be in back of the toggle, and but at some distance.
There is some glowing around the perimeter of the toggle base, but the toggle doesn't light up brightly like the Jasco.
I don't know how the Jasco lights up-the toggle isn't clear. Perhaps there is an led in the toggle?
The ZEN has triangular security bits holding on the cover. I don't know how the Jasco is attached.
In any event, disassembly and comparison of both could be an option. As in the case with me, it could become a destructive examination.
The ZEN73LR does not have an airgap switch like the Jasco UltraPro 700, but the toggle is solid...like the older Jascos, likely because of the airgap design.
Could the light emanated be enough for my use? Perhaps. It's quite dim, especially during the day.
It's too bad Zooz couldn't make a tiny design change to illuminate the toggle.
Of course, they'll probably do that after I do a massive replacement, lol. @agnes.zooz ?
Also, and @jtp10181 might be interested in this, a physical operation of the switch results in an instant report. Operating it from the dashboard or device page yields a tiny delay. Neither is anything like the 2 second delay as seen with the Jasco for both modes of operation. (This is with the Advanced ZEN switch driver as well as the Z-wave universal switch driver).
While @jtp10181 's ZEN Advanced Switch driver currently does not support parameter 18 directly, (the parameter itself can be changed from within the driver), which enables/disables led flashing when a parameter is changed, I'm finding it useful since things are so dim, any additional attention is welcome.
I change parameters when disabling motion, for example. For led flashes, in green for some reason, before it goes to a solid blue.
Thank you for the feedback! I'll pass it on to our development team and if we get more requests for an illuminated toggle, we should be able to make that happen down the line.
My triangle security bits arrived today from a land far, far way, so I took apart a Jasco and a ZEN73 to see what I could see.
The Jasco has an led right behind the toggle, while the ZEN73's is off to the side.
The Jasco also clearly has a light tube going into the toggle.
The ZEN73's board is probably a drop in of the paddle version, with the position of the led more suited to it.
I might try a light tube as suggested, but the light is visible as it is now, albeit dim. I'm not sure the effort would be worth it.
The led is actually located below where the blue highlighted area:
A resounding success!
Thanks so much for the light pipe idea.
It's almost too bright, even set at the lowest intensity, 30%.
I took a picture, but I'm not good with a camera.
The four colors really popped too: white, blue, green, red.
I drilled the wall plate from behind, and there was some spalling of the plastic.
I think if I made a template, maybe from a reversed wall plate, so the the raised short screws sit in the plate sunken holes, as a locator, I could drill from the front, avoiding the spalling and disassembly with the special triangle bit, small springs, etc. You'd get a tiny amount of plastic shavings inside, but I don't think that would factor in anything bad.
It could potentially take 5 minutes.
I haven't super glued it to the wall plate-I think that could be optional.
It's easily reversed: just put on a new plates.
Plus, wall plates are cheap.
I might do all my switches that I use the light, or potentially all (~40 at this point) of them!
PS: The reason Zooz specify short plate screws is the design of the grounding terminal.
edit: It's exciting. Rarely do things work out right off the bat for me. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop, lol.
I installed it on my first multi-gang switch box; took maybe 5 minutes.
I used the single plate I had drilled as a template, screwing it in over the large wallplate with the longer screws supplied. Marked the hole with a pencil and carefully drilled a 3mm hole through the plate and the plastic below. Slipped the light pipe in, and voila.
I have the brightness set at 30% for now; we'll see how it looks during the day.
edit: I think I'm going to make the gate opens red, and motion overrides blue.
Glad I could help!! I like it when a plan comes together
Tip: Be extremely careful when the drill goes past the plate.
The switch plastic is very thin, and the leds can be wiped out very easily.
Ask me how I found out.