Z wave repeaters

Can someone explain me how to know if z wave repeater is fully working?

I have C7 hub, 10 z wave plus outlets, 3 z wave plus sirens and 1 water main shutdown z wave plus valve.
6 outlets are working as repeaters.
3 (all) sirens are working as repeaters.
valve is not working as repeater.

So 4 outlets and valve are not repeaters according hubitat z wave mesh details. Those 4 outlets and valve are near sensors that needs repeaters. For some reason those sensors cannot use those outlets and valve as repeaters or... for some reason those outlets and that valve cannot operate as repeaters.

Is there a way to force outlet/valve to ..start to act like repeater? :slight_smile: It seems weird that I have sensors that are struggling to get good connection speed and shortest/fastest way to main hub because messages are routed slightly weird ways. For example sensor in basement is not able to use valve as repeater so it hops to outlet which is 5 meters away and after that route goes to other end of the apartment which is just silly I think.

I know that adding new repeaters takes some time. I also red that when adding or removing new devices z-wave repair should be done. Those outlets have been there over month..and they do not have any role as a repeaters.

Those four outlets are Fibaros outlets. I also have those same outlets in my environment which are working as repeaters.
Water valve is Popp flow stop and I'm guessing that it should be able to work as repeater because it is plugged to electricity.

Any ideas and is it normal that some of the repeaters are just not needed as repeaters in Hubitat z wave mesh?

I've said it many times before, and will say it again now:

Outlets, switches, and other AC-powered devices are supposedx to act as repeaters.

But in my experience, they often don't.
I've no idea why.

If you want a repeater, BUY A REPEATER. Actually, at least two.

Before I did this, I had many AC-powered, ALLEGED repeater devices, and an unreliable network. After buying and installing two repeaters for each building larger than a closet, I've had a rock-solid network. I have no idea why.

So, there you go. I bought Aeotec devices but many here really like Ring Extenders, which I have not tried. Good luck to you.

I have 2 Aeotecs and 1 Ring Extender in my house and this is my Repeater list:
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The Z-Wave Repeater - Playroom is an Aeotec and is in same room as hub. It was first device added to hub. You will notice that the other 2 repeaters ARE NOT on the list and they were installed a few months ago. Neither have ever made the Repeater List. My ZWave is rock-solid though knock on wood.

Yeah I do not have problems with z wave either but I noticed that speed could be better and ms could be smaller if routing would be different. I just do not understand how devices are building routes and why certain outlets are leaved completely out from creating stronger mesh. It just don't make any sense.

I have two Aeotec Range Extender 7 devices and 6 Ring Alarm Extender Gen 2 devices. All are fine. The advantage of the Ring is that it has a Z-Wave 700 chip, has an internal backup battery, and can send a power fail event (switch from mains to battery). With an appropriate rule, it can shut your hub down cleanly on loss of power.

There is no way to specify Z-Wave routing or whether a device can/should act as a router. Since about 2.2.4 firmware, there seems to be continual aggressive route exploration by the mesh. Seems that the best policy is just sit back and let it do its thing. I just sprinkle Ring repeaters around so that the mesh has choices. Our house has lots of mirrors, interior brick, and ceramic tile. Apparently that makes Z-Wave transmission difficult.

The Aeotec Range Extender 7 also uses the Z-Wave 700 chip.

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Thanks, I had missed that, but I see it now in the z-wavealliance,org certification docs.

They do work well, and Denny Page’s (@dennypage’s) excellent user-contributed driver exposes all the additional functions of the Aeotec RE7.