Z-Wave Disable Doesn't Turn Off Radio?

I added HE as a secondary to my Qolsys IQ2+ but with odd results (2.2.4: HE as secondary z-wave controller not working).

I wanted to test it with the latest firmware, so I went into the panel and tried removing HE. Normally you would enter exclusion mode on the panel and then activate learn/unlearn on the device, but HE doesn't seem to support unlearn.

The panel has a "remove failed device" feature, but when I selected the HE hub the panel tells me it is a reachable device and I should exclude the device normally.

So I figured disabling zwave in HE would stop the radio. Apparently it doesn't. Neither does shutting down HE (led is red). The alarm panel still sees HE as a "reachable" device. I had to physically remove power from HE in order for the alarm panel to force delete it.

And even though I've done a zwave reset, zwave disable/enable, shutdown and physically removed power for 10 minutes, I still have devices in my HE zwave device list.

I sent you a PM a week or so asking if you would be interested in me sending you a panel to test. I'm sure you're really busy but the offer still stands and I'd pay shipping both ways. I would need it back in a few weeks though.

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BTW, I have a zstick and a zniffer, but haven't set up the zniffer yet. Any info I can provide from either, just ask.