Yale B1L not connecting

Numerous attempts to connect my Yale B1L YRD110 locks (two of them), and no success. I removed them from my ST and reconnected, so it's not a range or device issue. Any help appreciated.

I have "Yale Assure Lock with Bluetooth and Z-Wave YRD446ZW2619" and I tried 8-10 times to get it to join secure. I had no trouble getting an insecure join and tried it from 8" or less. Same problem with my Linear Garage Door Opener. insecure join every time, secure, didn't happen, again, 8" or less.

Then I tried it from 100' through floors and ceilings, both devices paired securely first try!!!!! Both of my devices are near a) each other and b) surrounded by always on ZWave outlets and switches.

So, for me at least, neither needed "whisper distance".

I tried mine from ~3 feet away. It connected to ST from about ~10 feet away first time, using the same method. I don't know anything about secure verses insecure join.

There's two ways provided in the instructions for the lock. One is to press and hold the join button and wait for two beeps, which actually involves retrying multiple times until there are two beeps and various chimies (sometimes there's one beep, others five beeps - the latter means an attempt to exclude itself from the network).

The other way is to enter the master pin and cryptic codes to get to "join network" option. I didn't try this method on ST, but it doesn't provide any confirmation chime at all, as if "Join" is not an option. It does chime if choosing the option to leave the network.

edit: Nothing shows in Live Logging.

edit2: @csteele below provides instructions on the "cryptic codes" for joining.

I realized I wasn't getting the secure join after reading another thread here and someone pasted their Data section. Here's mine:

deviceType: 18244
zwaveSecurePairingComplete: true
inClusters: 0x72,0x98,0x5A
deviceId: 12336
manufacturer: 335

Notice the 2nd line. So when I got a join, and didn't have that line, Hubitat did nothing. The moment I got zwaveSecurePairingComplete: true I pushed Lock in Hubitat and the door locked.

Because we have different products, most of my hints are oblique. All I can offer is the similarity of experience, the frustration at not being able to join and get results, and then the OMG of it working.

And I appreciate it... And you prompted me to provide more details :slight_smile: The fact that it doesn't do anything at all using the master code method may be a hint for someone to be able to assist me, but completely forgot to mention it.

my particular model only works via Master Code method. Put in the master code, press Gear symbol (vs check mark) then it shows a "list" of available option numbers. I pick 7, gear, then it will either show a 1 (include because it's already excluded) or a 3 (to exclude), gear.

I have to also mention... lack of any response to the Include sure makes it seem like it's not fully excluded. Perhaps a factory reset method?

I don't know if its related but I had an issue pairing a MultiSensor6 dimmer with Hubitat when the units were too close.

At ~ 12 inches I could not get it to pair or if it paired there was no security (I tried many times). Moving the hub to about 7 feet away and pairing was quick and with security.

Perhaps there is some RF overloading going on when the radios are too close. Or perhaps I was still learning on my first day with Hubitat.

John

Sounds like you were experiencing wireless signal reflection which can cause interference and weakened signal reception. More often then not, I have to be very close to the hub to pair Zigbee devices, or let’s just say I have a higher success rate. Z-Wave seems to vary more from one manufacturer to another in my admittedly limited Z-Wave experience.

@Roguetech, did you ever get this lock going. Just ordered one today and this post has me second guessing.

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I've had no issue with the YRD256, but it's Z-Wave Plus. It doesn't appear the YRD110 is.:no_mouth:

Honestly haven't tried again. I need remote code management, so I've kept them on ST until I can get a VPN set up.

I just got my Yale B1L zwave lock today. I tried pairing 3 times and I'm unable to get a secure join....and so I'm unable to control the lock. @mike.maxwell please see pairing details below and assist if possible.

I am brand new to Hubitat. I bought it to connect to a number of devices, but I'm starting with the Yale B1L lock. The Yale Website does not list Hubitat on their supported Z-Wave devices page. Does this mean I'm wasting my time?

Also, newbie question. I purchased the Hubitat Elevation US edition. The documentation and posts in this forum indicate that there are two colors that should appear on the front of the device, red and blue. Mine is green. Any clues on what green means? Thanks

Last I heard from @mike.maxwell, this device did some strange stuff during the pairing process and was not supported. I gave up and returned this lock for a refund.

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The new Model C-5 hub shows blue when it is booting up, and green once the hub platform software is up and running. If you shut it down from the Settings page, it will turn red.

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I have the same lock and have had it paired and functional for a few weeks now. I did have to pair it a couple times before I finally got a secured connection but it's been rock solid ever since. I just purchased another one to install this weekend. Fingers crossed!

BTW - Don't assume that because Hubitat is not officially listed means that it isn't supported. It's still the 'new guy' in home automation. The community here is great, don't be discouraged.

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Good to hear. My plan for tomorrow is to bring a longer cable from work so I can bring the Hubitat closer to the lock. I've only been able to get it about 4 meters away so far. Hopefully when I get super-close it will connect

ZWave has two Features that relate to locks.

Whisper Join
Beaming

The long cable you are going to try will solve Whisper Distance, But there are plenty of devices that work best in the presence of a strong mesh. Beaming helps to bridge the battery life we all want with Locks and the fact they really need to be instant on. The physical side of a human approaching a lock and having it spring to life is one thing.. but there's a lot of potential conversation with a hub all day long too.. as Lock codes are swapped/enabled/disabled, etc. Beaming helps with the hub <--> lock side of things specifically to enhance battery life. That means the mesh you build around your lock will want to have beaming capable devices.

I guess what I'm saying is: Locks last. :frowning: Get your mesh built out around the area where you've got locks, then add the lock.

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Thanks, again for the advice.

My longer cable and closer distance did not do the trick, but here is what I am noticing

  1. When I plug the Hubitat into my router and power it up, the router light for the connection glows amber instead of green
  2. When I look at the list of connected devices on my router, the Hubitat is not there
  3. Despite all this I can interact with the Hubitat, add apps and search for devices via a laptop connected wirelessly to the network

I have a Netgear router, if that makes any difference

Now to your response, I don't know what you mean to build the mesh. Are you saying that I should connect other devices to the Hubitat first and that will increase its capacity to connect to this particular lock?

Isn't the Amber or green an indication of the speed of the port?

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