Window and door contact sensor recommendations


#21

Probably right. But even if they are the same price as the ones from Monoprice (which would be more than double what they currently sell for on AliExpress) I'd be a happier camper.


#22

Any tips on how to include the monoprice z-wavePlus Recessed Door/Window Sensor? Looks like part number is 15268

I've tried several z-wave includes now and the device is seen but gets stuck in "initializing". I tried again, and now I have 2 devices stuck "initializing". How do I get rid of them or complete the join?


#23

Tried the rboy smartthings DH for the 15268 but it spews errors:


#24

what model numbers are yours? How did you include them?


#25

https://docs.hubitat.com/index.php?title=Join_and_Reset_Instructions#Monoprice

[Edit]
Sorry, meant to post this link too.
https://docs.hubitat.com/index.php?title=List_of_Compatible_Devices

As you'll see in the list of compatible devices, the Monoprice 15268 uses the Generic Z-Wave Contact Sensor driver as @nick.jones.007 wrote below


#26

I went with this model.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15268&utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=retargetting&utm_content=300x250&utm_campaign=2018_criteo

Pairing it with Hubitat is simple, just the standard z-wave pairing option. It will come up as a "Generic Z-Wave Contact Sensor".

Installation requires that you drill into your door and door frame. So while not the easiest option, it's by far the cleanest looking.


#27

I seem to remember I had to pair them while being close-ish to the hub for it to complete.


#28

They look alright. I noted that site also sells Bosch motion sensors have you also tried them?


#29

Anyone know if the Mija door and window sensors work with the Aqara device handler?
I currently use the Aqara ones and they work great but read that the Mija ones are the same but cheaper.


#30

Our exterior doors are metal clad and are already drilled for spring loaded hard wired contact sensors. I've been looking for the zwave or zigbee version of that sensor with no luck. The only spring loaded sensor I've found is an Insteon with the others all being magnetic.

Does anyone know of another option? Thinking of giving an Aoetec a go.


#31

On doors, I do not like the contacts being visible thus I use the NYCE door hinges & they work fine on my metal doors. They work well with HSM. As for window contacts I use Iris contacts and I take the magnet out of the case for even lower profile. My windows are white & I painted the magnet white to blend in on the window & they look a lot better.

I bought a lot of those Ring contacts..they were so big & butt-ugly that I would not put them on my doors & windows...they are very tacky looking....more wasted money.


#32

My metal doors are not metal on the top edge.
And so, I chiseled cavities to fit Dome/Zooz/Neo/similar door sensors in the top of the door and drilled a long angled hole to bring wires from the spring-loaded contact to the 'door' sensor.


#33

You cut (chiseled) a cavity that allowed a (surface mount?) Door Sensor to be recessed into the top of the door.

Then drilled from the spring loaded contact to the Door Sensor so wires could be run between them...

What do you do with those wires? I'm guessing you somehow use them to bridge (bypass/replace) to magnetic sensor?!?


#34

The mentioned sensors all use reed contacts; and so, you just solder 2 wires in parallel with the contact. In the old days, I did the same with the Iris Window/Door sensors. However, they use Hall effect chip; and modifications get involved. You could also get Aeotec Door sensor 7, some Fibaros or similar - they allow external connections, at a price.

Wires from the sensor connect to the spring-loaded switch on the side of the door.
I used these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDG4II/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Of course, the magnets are not being used.

The cavity is visible/accessible only from the top.


#35

Assuming you mean MiJia (Xiaomi), I found this...

Xiaomi & Aqara Devices - Pairing & Keeping them connected


#36

Welcome to the Hubitat Community!

Yes, Mijia contact sensors work with the same driver that Aqara uses, but I’ve had trouble with them falling of the network in recent months. I have one Aqara contact sensor and it did not fall off, but I don’t know if that’s a coincidence or not.

I have now switched to using all my Xiaomi Mijia and the one Aqara contact sensor with the Aqara HomeKit gateway, and I sync them to virtual switches with HomeKit automations. It’s just as fast and completely reliable. I’ve also now switched my Aqara motion sensors to the Aqara gateway, since they started to randomly drop too, despite several TRÅDFRI Outlets to repeat the Xiaomi Zigbee. I have left the Mijia Motion sensors paired to HE because so far they have never dropped.


#37

Thanks for your info. I've heard people mention pairing their xiaomi sensors to the Aqara Homekit gateway but not sure whether the same rule applies for pairing to a non Homekit version (I don't use Homekit). e.g original xiaomi mijia upgrade version smart home wifi remote control multifunctional gateway work with smart sensor kit at Banggood.

Are there any instructions on how to carry out this process? Downsides to doing this? e.g. if you assign a virtual switch, do you lose any device attributes that are natively available such as battery level etc?

thanks


#38

I’m not aware of any other way to sync between them than HomeKit, and that requires you are an iOS user to build the automations. There’s a web UI plugin for HomeKit, but I don’t think it allows you to create HomeKit automations.

You also need either an Apple TV 4 or newer, an iPad that can run the latest iOS or a HomePod to run the HomeKit automations. There’s a project to build a stand-alone HomeKit server that is in the works, but it’s not that expensive to just buy a used Apple TV 4 and shove it in a closet with the other hubs and bridges if you don’t want to use it for anything else.

As far as getting the regular Mijia Hub running with HomeKit, there is a plugin for Homebridge, as long as your Gateway is v2. But I have no personal experience with it. I just have the Aqara HomeKit Gateway, which was just $40 USD. That for me was worthwhile to get an official HomeKit enabled gateway and not have to mess with a config.json file and potential incompatible devices, on top of having to build HomeKit automations.

I’m not suggesting this is an easy route if you’re not already in the Apple ecosystem, and yes you do lose battery indicators in HomeKit. The Aqara hub currently does not support them. No idea if that Miji Homebridge plug-in does or not. But that’s minor. I’m not sure they were even setup right when I had them paired to HE directly. I think I needed to adjust the voltage, because after a year they still read 100%, so that can’t be correct. I’m not a worrier about batteries. When the device stops working and I can’t repair the connection, then the battery is the next thing I’m going to check with a tester anyway. Maybe you get battery levels with the MiHome app, which can do HomeKit setup, but not as easily as the Aqara app. I’ve not used that app since I got the hub because even though there is a way to switch back and forth between the MiHome app and the Aqara app, I found doing so was causing me to have to setup all over again if I changed countries to see what was coming in the Aqara lineup (because China always gets the devices first, I like to peak at what might be coming :wink:).