Who owns inovelli lights and switches?

I am a big fan of HUE lights, but do not like the cost. I tried Sengled Lights and do not like them at all

I wanted to see what anyone thought about the inovelli color bulbs and have responsive are they and do they work better than sengled ?

I tried the Sylannia color bulbs and did not like how hot they got.

Appreciate the discussion

EDIT: after some investigation it appears the problems I was having were mesh related. While I have moved these bulbs to a alternate location the jury is still out. Thanks to @bcopeland and hubitat support for helping me fix the mesh.

I do not like my inovelli bulbs...I am about to replace them with Lightify bulbs.

I find them to send a burst of data after a CT or color change that will sometime lag the whole z-wave network for 5-10 seconds..

I am using the most up to date driver I can find. @bcopeland might be able to help some with these as he wrote a bunch of driver optimizations.

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:eyes: Yes .. This is a necessary evil unfortunately... It can be removed but color reporting won’t be correct.. I have 27 of these but have a very strong, well designed mesh and have no issues changing all at the same time.. And do (sunrise/sunset) as well as a ton of other z-wave devices

My issue is I have 4 color bulbs that I use for Notifications and lighting. So I have been setting the bulb back to CT 2700 when turning on with the button so it wont come on to the last notification color. This seems to really tie up the network to the point that other lights take forever to respond. any advise?

I love all of my RED series switches

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Can you do this and capture the logs.. capture the log on all devices so I can see what all else is going on at the time

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Pressed button on to turn on carport switch. Turned off the kitchen light. Turned off the bulb. Resulted in this

dev:1112020-05-03 04:44:01.358 pm debugSwitchMultilevelReport(value:0)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:44:01.353 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 2603, payload: 00 , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:44:00.249 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:692020-05-03 04:44:00.219 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:692020-05-03 04:44:00.158 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:6752020-05-03 04:44:00.009 pm infoK-UnderCabinet 2.0 level is 100%

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:59.965 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:59.290 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

app:3942020-05-03 04:43:59.173 pm infoAction: Wait for condition: K-Sink Motion, K-Kitchen Motion all inactive FALSE

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:59.155 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:59.110 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

app:3952020-05-03 04:43:59.026 pm info!Kitchen Motion 3.1 Triggered

app:3952020-05-03 04:43:58.999 pm info!Kitchen Motion 3.1: K-Occupied Switch switch on

app:3942020-05-03 04:43:58.859 pm infoAction: Cancel Delayed Actions

app:3942020-05-03 04:43:58.824 pm infoAction: Dim: K-UnderCabinet 2.0: 100

dev:5902020-05-03 04:43:58.810 pm infoK-Occupied Switch was turned on

app:3942020-05-03 04:43:58.794 pm infoAction: On: K-Occupied Switch

app:3942020-05-03 04:43:58.786 pm infoAction: IF (Mode is Home(T) [TRUE]) THEN

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:58.741 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:58.675 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

app:3942020-05-03 04:43:58.630 pm info!Kitchen Motion 3.0 Triggered

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:58.600 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:5912020-05-03 04:43:58.463 pm infoK-Kitchen Motion is active

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:58.367 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:58.361 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:58.356 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:58.185 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:58.179 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:58.175 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.872 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.867 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.862 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:57.815 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.767 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.761 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.757 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.673 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.659 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.655 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.619 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.596 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.587 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.580 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.571 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.563 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.529 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.525 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.515 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.508 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.501 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.496 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.439 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.433 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:57.429 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:56.918 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:56.844 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:56.799 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:55.773 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:55.766 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:55.762 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:55.527 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:55.519 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:55.514 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:53.527 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:53.520 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:53.514 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:5752020-05-03 04:43:53.155 pm infoM-Bath Door battery is 89%

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:53.071 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:53.065 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:53.060 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.981 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.974 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.969 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.793 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.787 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.782 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.600 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.592 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.587 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.532 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.525 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.521 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:52.392 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:52.320 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.256 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.245 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.239 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.205 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.196 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:52.191 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:50.141 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Switch Binary report received with value of off

dev:5852020-05-03 04:43:49.963 pm infoG-Guest Room Motion adjusted temperature is 72.05°F [sensor value 72.05]

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.908 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.901 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:blue, colorComponentId:4, value:0)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.895 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 04 00 , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.824 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.818 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:green, colorComponentId:3, value:245)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.813 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 03 F5 , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.741 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.735 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:red, colorComponentId:2, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.730 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 02 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.676 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.667 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:coldWhite, colorComponentId:1, value:0)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.662 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 01 00 , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.621 pm debugSwitchMultilevelReport(value:99)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:48.616 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 2603, payload: 63 , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:47.271 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: off()

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:47.018 pm debugSwitchMultilevelReport(value:99)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:47.014 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 2603, payload: 63 , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:47.009 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Button 1 was held

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:44.439 pm debugSwitchMultilevelReport(value:99)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:44.436 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 2603, payload: 63 , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:44.391 pm debugSwitchMultilevelReport(value:99)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:44.371 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 2603, payload: 63 , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:44.356 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: off()

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:44.323 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: off()

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:44.108 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: off()

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:44.089 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Button 1 was held

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:43.949 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Button 1 was held

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:43.788 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Button 1 was held

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:43.453 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:43.444 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:43.439 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:43.325 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:43.305 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:43.290 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:43.195 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: off()

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:43.190 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:43.172 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:43.153 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:42.900 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Button 1 was held

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:42.716 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: off()

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:42.666 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: off()

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:42.451 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:42.423 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:42.415 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:42.398 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: off()

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:42.333 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:42.195 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:42.180 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:41.987 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Button 1 was held

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:41.983 pm debugwarmWhite: 255, coldWhite: 0

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:41.958 pm debuggot SwitchColorReport: SwitchColorReport(colorComponent:warmWhite, colorComponentId:0, value:255)

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:41.889 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Button 1 was held

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:41.884 pm debugparse:zw device: 0D, command: 3304, payload: 00 FF , isMulticast: false

dev:692020-05-03 04:43:41.787 pm infoK-Kitchen Switch: Button 1 was held

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:41.212 pm debugsetLevel(100, 1)

dev:1112020-05-03 04:43:41.092 pm debugsetColorTemperature(2700)

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well, It looks llike they are disconnectiuing their cloud service, wonder if they are going to keep making the bulbs

dumb question but I have to ask, after looking at my amazon order. I returned the Smart+ bulbs

Is there a different between Lifity and Smart+ ?

I know the cloud services are going away. but the bulbs should continue to function. These bulbs are most often used as notifications and occasionally for lighting on the way in and out of the house after dark.

I have about 6 Lightify devices now, however none of the color ones. The current cost of these devices made this an easy choice to move to.

dumb question but I have to ask, after looking at my amazon order. I returned the Smart+ bulbs

Is there a different between Lifity and Smart+ ?

I think just a different generation/iteration of the same bulbs.

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good luck , let me know how you get on. I tested the smart+, I will try the lifity if its better. a Buddy of mine and myself both tried the smart+ and we found they did not work well ( only speaking of the color bulbs)

I am looking for something close to as good as HUE with out the price of Hue. I was hoping that the Inovelli color bulbs would be the one.

I am glad you like the red series switches ! I was thinking of putting a lot of the red series switches in the house to help build a strong zwave network.

I think I have 18 Red switches and dimmers. This is what I did in most of the house when I converted away from x10. I love them...however with the motion sensors I rarely have to touch them.

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Looking through it to establish a timeline of packets

When it ran....the bulb turned on. ..the Kicken light turned off...then the bulb turned off about 7 seconds later

@Hasty1.. Ok.. yea this is not normal..

I see the same message being repeated a bunch of times.. Something is not right there..

I see repeats for a bunch of devices messages

Would this be a device issue (Zwave repeating) or something else going on. I just started a repair. I only have Inovelli switches, dimmers and bulbs, and one Zooz multi relay. And a Radio Thermostat!

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It sounds like the device isn't getting the ack packet back to know the hub got the message so it is repeating.. How far away is your hub?

maybe 50 feet but there are 4 switches in between the hub and that switch

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Then in theory is should be great.. So what is causing all the repeats.. Is there any potential interference? Anything running on 900Mhz like cordless phones, baby monitors, etc?