What is the best way to know what Hubitat can and can't do

[Ron]

@patrick

Have you reviewed the tutorial videos we have on our website?

I didn't watch all of them but I did review what was there and watched the ones I found interesting.

@patrick

Is the something specific you feel you are missing?

• Maintained list of built in DH ( for example I am told after asking that Linear GD00Z-4 works without need for custom DH ) This list is best maintained by Staff since you know what you are adding. But I can see that perhaps a Standard DH may work for a new device. It would be good to be able to document that as well.
• If we document custom DH better perhaps we can avoid what happens on ST community were there are many versions of the same DH floating around. I have my DH open source and am more than willing to work with pull requests from others if the changes make sense. I think they may still diverge but if the different versions are documented that would be nice.
• I haven't started coding or converting my DH yet but SmartThings has a LOT of developer documentation which includes what code works on their system, they document what versions of the ZWAVE methods they support etc. I don't know how that all works in your system yet so not sure what I will find. Perhaps all groovy code works and all zwave methods work (not sure where they are best documented outside of SmartThings site).

@patrick

Any help I can provide, please don't hesitate to ask.

Thanks, I will do so. Do you prefer PM or open forum communication. I promise not to be a pest.

This all said I am a newbie on your platform so perhaps I will find this all a lot easier than I am initially thinking. I just know SmartThings started out a lot like HE now feels with documentation lacking etc and they reached a point where things were well documented but they didn't really focus on getting Custom developers efforts into the production system. I think this lead to some of their current problems. As they try to change the internals they break a LOT of custom code. I have about 80% of my ST system on custom DH and Apps so I can't ask them for support they always reply (we don't support custom handlers) I find this unfair because they encouraged custom and they resisted our efforts to get custom code into their official system. So they should either support it or do a better job making it native.

I have no idea how HE stands on this. Again I am new and just figuring it all out. I see this system as a strong potential to prevent the mistakes of ST and take over the field. I would like to help make this happen if I can.

@patrick

One thought that came to mind is we can write up text tutorials of our videos as well. Some may not want to watch a video.

I like this idea, at least a test summary would good also. Just a better way to know what I will learn. It can be time consuming to watch a video and learn very little from it.

@patrick

Rule Machine is an amazingly powerful rules engine. We also included the other apps to help with typical automation needs where it might be easier.

I agree, I enjoyed Rule Machine when it was on ST and I managed to keep it running for the rules I created before it was removed. I stopped using it because I assumed it would be breaking some day due to ST lack of support. I just started writing my own custom apps for things but that was more time consuming.

I am also curious about CoRE and webCoRE. I avoided them on ST and I hated that almost ever post I made on ST about how to solve a problem would result in people telling me to us webCoRE. I see that here already also but my understanding is the developer of webCoRE has stated that although it works on HE he is NOT supporting HE so if things break on HE but not on ST he will not be addressing.

I know from this thread that a patched version exists. But I would like to know the "offical" position on webCoRE. Will it be maintained as a part of HE or is it best to use Rule Machine and ask for improvements when it doesn't fit the need?

Using webCoRE with Hubitat

I read multiple posts in the forum mentioning that webCoRE runs well on Hubitat, barring some minor issues. Could someone please guide me on how they achieved this and what limitations would come with it? I tried to install the code from Ady's repository and updated the few lines that referring to SmartThings functions. The interface for webCoRE works fine, however none of the pistons execute. What could I be doing wrong? Background: I have a large number of pistons written on webCoRE controll…

My plan is to use Rule Machine and ask when I think it needs improvement because so far I have not needed webCoRE anyway on ST. But it is possible I am making my life more difficult for no reason

@SmartHomePrimer

Obviously that was intentional, since most of the early adopters, and the founders came from that community. It makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, it brings that search limitation along with it.

This is a very common community system. I have several other products using the same code. I too don't know the name of the base system. I think I did at one time but I don't remember.

@SmartHomePrimer

You may not feel it at the moment, but you are fortunate that you're joining the Hubitat community at this point in time. We're still at the point where the most skilled users and developers are still fairly active on the forum, and have the time and inclination to reply fairly quickly, and with very good answers. Once the pool becomes more diluted with new users, and the staff have a massive base to respond to, it may become more difficult to get information. I mean no disrespect to anyone with that comment. It's just an observation from my experience with SmartThings when they grew so exponentially.

I agree, I joined SmartThings when the developer were still holding weekly video conference calls for devs. It was fun but eventually they stopped listening to us. I used to get good answers from ST the only answers I get now are "We don't support custom code"

@SmartHomePrimer

even contribute to the wiki

by the wiki do you mean the community topic "wiki" or is there a real wiki page?

@SmartHomePrimer

@Ron and @ray, I have suggestions/info that may be useful to both of you, but I don't want move this thread off the topic, so I'll send you both PMs.

or start another thread and invite us to it