What is going on with Z-Wave repeating?

I have 2 Inovelli Z-Wave+ bulbs with the latest firmware in 2 sconces in my master bedroom about 10 ft apart on the same wall (2nd floor, back wall of the house). The sconces themselves are always physically "on" to allow for proper bulb integration with the mesh.

The master bedroom itself contains a Ring Extender repeater and at least 9 ZW+ switches that surround the sconces. One bulb is connected to the repeater as expected but is showing a throughput of 9.6kbits. The other bulb is showing as routing through an older Aeotec Doorbell/Siren on the first floor in the living room over the fireplace near the front of my house and the throughput is 100kbits..

I get that sometimes where a device decides to route through can be counter-intuitive except in this case it has to literally skip over 4 direct line-of-sight switches and a line-of-sight repeater AND a whole bunch of other switches between / and surrounding the bulb AND the repeating device. There is no way this is the optimal route for this device.. BUT it appears to have a higher throughput than the sconce connected to the repeater IN THE SAME ROOM.

Something is not quite right... same devices / firmware, similar location (10 ft apart), one routing through an unsecured device at the max rate and the other routing through an S2 secured device (in the same room) but at the lowest rate.

Note: I don't necessarily care if the route is screwy as long as the throughput is good.

edit: I now realize that it's likely the "doorbell" route was probably chosen to be as close to the hub as possible while having the fastest communication with the device. I'm guessing my way of thinking about routing is incorrect - I started with the device and went to the hub rather than the other way around.

I have a Fibaro switch that is 5m from the hub and 100kbps. Line of sight to the switch are 4 devices ranging from 2m to 5m. All of these are 9600 connections. I canโ€™t get them higher. They are all Z-Wave plus devices. They work fairly reliably though.

So those are not Z-Wave plus? That's kind of understandable I guess. All of my devices are ZW+.

It's the repeating through the Ring Extender (or S2 authenticated device maybe) that seems to be the problem - the extender is connected at 100 kbits but the ZW+ bulb connects to it at 9.6. The other bulb connects to a non-S2 device at 100kbits.

I went ahead and removed all my repeaters now I have a bunch of ghost routes... sigh.

The Aeotec 7s are unplugged. The Ring Extenders have been reset. Nothing is showing on the secondary controller but the Z-Wave Details page still has them in other device's routes NOT as listed devices.

Both sconces are back to 100kbits throughput.

Something is not quite right with the S2 repeaters with S2 security and Non S2 ZW+ devices paired with no security. I thought it didn't matter but the selected rate sometimes seems to be 9.6kbits even with devices within the line of sight.

Not sure if it's just the Ring Extenders with this issue or the Aeotecs as well. Would explain the reluctance of a lot of devices in repeating through these though. Also it doesn't always happen some devices seem to route fine. I'm not sure what the pattern is..

Ghost Routes!!!!!! :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:
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A refresh from z-wave details page has been reported to clear this up.

Are the updates to Z-wave routes (shown in the Z-wave details page) supposed to be updating in real time? Or at least with "refreshes" of the page? I'm definitely not seeing that... usually within 5 - 10 minutes I'll see the change reflected on this page.

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No sadly - I've refreshed, rebooted, waited over night - taken devices offline etc. The only thing I haven't done is exclude/include which now is 9 devices...

Well it is still reporting the ghosts this afternoon.. sigh.

saw a recommendation to shut down hub, pull power, wait minutes(10?) then restart to rid the ghosts

Yeah tried that too.. waited about 20 mins.. Wish there was a way to edit routes using a secondary controller.

Sorry it didn't work.
Does this do anything to affect route? Paging @bcopeland

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I have not played around with that.. cool..

If yโ€™all start playing around with routes.. Donโ€™t contact me when your mesh falls apart. :wink:

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I don't really understand what I am doing with that anyway so I'm probably not going to do anything at this point.. :wink:

All I want to do is get rid of the dang ghost routes.. have 5 persistent ones right now.

Maybe it's just misreporting?

Have you run this experiment? How bad does it screw with the internal routing logic?

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