Webcore App?

Hello Again All :slight_smile:

Is there a Webcore App?

Thank You
Matt

Search is your friend. :wink:
Patched WebCoRe for Hubitat.

Yes I did search for it under Built-In Apps and it did not come up.

Thank You

He meant forum search. But anyway, glad you found what you need. Good luck!

You might want to try and use RM4 before WebCoRe as this is a built in app and fully supported by the HE team.
There has been issues with WebCoRe on HE as WC was originally built to run in the cloud where resource isn't an issue. On HE everything runs locally so you have to ensure any pistons you define are not resource hungry. It is being tweaked all the time though and some people are using it with no issues.
You've probably found those threads now and they are worth a quick scan.
Also bear in mind that if you have any issues with your hub one of the first things support will suggest is to disable custom apps to see if performance improves. WC falls into the custom app category.
Just thought I'd pass the information on.
Have fun.

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If you are going to try WebCoRE, there are a few things that will make your life a lot easier. Now, I had 100% of my automations on ST on WebCoRE. I now have 1 piston left on WebCoRE. RM is so much faster and works much better on HE, it just makes sense to move things over that hubitat can do. When used tactically, WebCoRE works great on HE. You just have to be a WebCoRE ninja...slip in and out without anyone noticing.
Don't use global variables unless you absolutely have to.
Don't call other pistons, move functions into the same piston wherever possible
Don't sync devices unless you are using them in a piston.

If you do those things, it will greatly reduce your risk of a lock-up. But like I said, take the time to move them over to RM. You'll definitely be glad you did in the long run, even if you're ready to pull your hair out over RM in the short term.

That's because it's not a built-in app. :slight_smile: It's a user app, and if you don't see a button for that, it means you don't have any custom apps.

Hopefully you've found that thread by now, and hopefully you've also read the warnings. Since I assume you're new to Hubitat, I'd suggest first asking about what you're trying to automate and how. There's likely a way to do it with a built-in app already, and if not, Rule Machine (where it is likely possible) is a safer choice.

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So far all of my Webcore pistons have been replaced by RM4 but it was just on my long list of things too look at and migrate, but for now I will just hold-off of Webcore unless RM4 can not suffice :slight_smile:
Thanks Again All
Matt

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RE: WC being resource hungry - do you mean the web core "host" (VM, raspberry pi, etc) or the hub's resources? Personally I'm still struggling with what feels to me a bit like reverse Polish (that was a thing right?) with regards to the interface and logic in RM (not quite as bad in 4). The WC logic just seems more intuitive to me - though I suspect this may be an interface/UI thing as the logic that RM shows when you've finished your rule(s) looks like what I'd expect - I just don't get to input that logic the way it spits it out (not sure if that makes any sense...:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:)

The raspberry pi is not used to process your pistons. All of your pistons are stored and executed by the hub. In fact, you could totally turn off your rpi and your pistons would continue to run without a problem. The dashboard in your RPi is only used to edit pistons.

When WC was first ported across to HE it was quite 'processor hungry' (if that makes sense :wink: ) so the hub could have a tendency to slow down depending on your piston definition.. Since then WC for HE has been heavily modified to suit running on HE.
WC for HE (your pistons) run exclusively on the HE hub. Editing, defining and deleting your pistons is either done on the WC server or on a local host (RPi) should you wish to do so. It doesn't really matter which way you go to be honest.

Whilst I do agree with this, if you persist with RM4 I'm sure you will get your head round it and eventually become very proficient at using it.
Also, if you use an HE 'built in' app (like RM4) you will get support not only from
the HE team but also from the guys and gals on this forum who are pretty good at helping people.

@Ryan780 - I think that more directly answers my question (though not the answer I was hoping for).

@bobbles - Given the above, I think I'm going to be paying it by ear for a while then...

It'd be nice if someone would come up with a software & hardware package that was pluggable - as opposed to the z-stick or the usb dongle that comes with the C4, meaning, I want an intuitive rules UI like Webcore with the flexibility of hubitat but with scalable back end hardware - so in the case of the pistons, being able to run all the things on an odroid u4, or VM on an esxi host, or some dedicated hardware thats got more resources as an option, not necessarily as a complete replacement for the hubitat if that makes sense. I also want to have my cake and eat it too... oh pipe dreams...