Virtual Thermostats don't show up in "Swap Apps Device"

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I want to control a space heater using a "temperature sensor" and an "outlet/plug" - and have it on the "dashboard"' as a thermostat.

Two apps exist inside HPM -- one is the "Advanced vThermostat Manager by Nelson Clark" and the other is the " Virtual Thermostat Manager by Eliot Stocker"

I was using the "Virtual Thermstat" -- but there's a bug (it seems) where a Dashboard doesn't change "red" for when heat comes on. Otherwise it works.

So I was going to change to a "vThermostat" (which does turn red)

But I've already built about a dozen rules using the old "Virtual Thermostat" - and a couple of dashboards.

Went to use the "Swap Apps Device". No go. NEITHER of the two types of 'virtual thermostats' show up in "Swap Apps Device"

What am I doing wrong. All of my other devices, virtual switches, etc all show up for "Swap Apps Device"

Am up-to-date, running version: 2.3.4.114

...Chuck

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I just checked, I use the VThemostat and it doesn't show up, so it's not you.

Maybe just export each rule and then after you switch thermostat apps, you can import and change to the other

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Ya, that's my backup plan -- clone/export -- change during process -- then delete old rules.

PIA. Still will have to update dashboards manually.

...Chuck

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Just tried this and I think it would work. Go to your device page and change both to use the built in virtual thermostat driver. Using the virtual driver it shows up then after the swap change it back.

The others probably don't show up because they are created by apps?

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I'll give that a shot. Was slightly worried about switching the device from an "app created child" to an internal device, and back again. But worst case, I'll restore the database (taking a backup first).

Thanks for the creative idea. Hadn't considered that. (But @Support -- I think this is a bug (can't "Swap App Device"- along with the other possible bug -- the Virtual Thermostat not going red in a dashboard)

...Chuck

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Yup. They are child devices, which aren't supported by Swap Apps Device.

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@Terminal3 and @aaiyar

Well pooh. Changing them to the internal "virtual thermostat" type doesn't work either. The "child" devices aren't going to play nice here. Oh well.

Guess it's clone/export for me. And manual update to Dashboards.

(And still is the likely bug where the "Virtual Thermostat Manager by Eliot Stocker" doesn't turn 'red' for heat in Dashboards -- vThermostat works)

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A close-out post. Did end up having to clone - change thermostat name during clone - then delete old rule. Dashboards had to be updated manually.

I'd think if that could be done, and works, then a tweak to "Swap Apps Device" would also be viable. But I'll leave it at that. There is a work-around.

...Chuck

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