That's it for the Hue motions...for me anyway

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I'm in the Beta group, but I don't think that has anything to do with it, so I'll post this here.

Yesterday, I removed the battery from a (Tuya?) fingerbot. Last night, a bunch of my Hue motion sensors went off line: you know, the red dot upon motion, but nothing else. Shutdown/power cycled, to no avail

I have no mains-powered zigbee devices, ie, no repeaters.

This thing happened before and was related to a power outage.

Getting a bunch of error logs too, but not identifiable, of course, to the culprit device, unavoidable they say, someone else's fault, they say.

I'm not touching the damn sensors; they're gone, maybe slowly because of cash flow, but gone nonetheless.

It's a shame because the Hue's are usually good, but when they screw up, it's en masse.

The only zigbee things I couldn't replace would be the Sinope tank monitors and aforementioned fingerbot.

I'm getting out of the Beta group too. Maybe if I had a 'development' hub, but reliability is key.

Sorry for the rant-ish nature of the post. :slight_smile:

edit: Screw the expense; ordered 11 ZSE18LRs and threw in a ZSE41LR contact sensor for good measure.

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I have several of those sensors and have never had a problem on my c5, c7, or c8. Though one big difference is that I have a lot of repeaters in my zigbee mesh for strength. Overall I have 60 or so zigbee devices. They are a very reliable device. I'm wondering if the issue is just the lack of repeaters in your mesh...

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Remember the zigbee radio reboot issue?
That's why I got rid of them. And they were your touted Sengleds.

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Shrug.... Can't tell ya why you were having issues then... Sengleds have been solid for me as have my sinope thermostat and my zigbee nightlights as well as a few other repeaters.

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Good for you. :slight_smile:

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Again shrug....

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It is what it is...

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Seems like the apparent solution has been avoided. I have two Hue outdoor inside my garage. Four Hue indoor scattered around the house. None have ever gone offline. Batteries last at least a couple of years. A mixed z-wave and Zigbee environment with numerous ZigBee repeaters. ZigBee stability was resolved a few years ago. I pitched first gen 4-in-1's, Crees and Peanuts. Later the slowly failing Sengleds had to go, replaced by the too expensive very reliable Hue lights. Never a mesh issue.

The Hues should be an easy sell in the FB group.

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I have one Hue motion sensor that I had trouble with also. It would usually report motion and then freeze that way. I'd take out the batts, and it would do the same thing. I pulled mine out of service also. And further, I have plenty of repeaters, and other zigbee motion sensors as well that would work. Seemed like just a bad sensor. I've been having very good luck with my third reality motion sensors though.

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I have lots of battery operated zigbee devices (Ikea and Third Reality remotes/buttons/motion sensors).

I use Ikea and Third Reality smart outlets for control and repeater use.

No issues with the battery devices I have.

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I tried a bunch of things...but I'm NOT touching them, until I replace them. Here's the current diagram after a couple days:
(It's nice the propane monitor still works after not touching it. The Xfiniity door contact as well. The fingerbot I removed and re-installed the battery. 0000 is probably a Hue sensor that got destroyed by leaking batteries. I have no idea why Living Room motion is the only Hue working.

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Here is mine after a half hour... About half aren't showing yet...

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Done.
Here's what my zigbee details list looks like now:

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I have outdoor Hue motion detectors that drop off every so often and have plenty of repeaters. I've been wondering about connecting them to the Hue hub and getting motion through CoCoHue rather than using Hubitat. Is there any advantage or disadvantage in doing that? I assume they might be more reliable with the Hue hub since I've never had a problem with bulbs connected that way. Might that be right??

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I've long had a couple Hue indoor sensors paired direct to HE that have never given me any grief, but (long story why) I keep my Hue outdoor sensor paired to Hue and integrate that one via CoCo... That also has been been in place for years and has been flawless.

I know indoor vs outdoor aren't directly comparable, but I've noticed zero differences in response times, reporting etc between sensors paired direct or integrated via CoCo.

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Thanks - I'm going to give it a try next time one falls off.

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