Smartthings to Hubitat Migration questions

Make a separate dashboard page per room. Or multiple if you can't fit all the devices.

Make a top level 'main menu' dashboard to link to all those room dashboards you want.

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ok. will do that.
btw, isn't it possible to make a dashboard with scroll feature ?

and which template should be used for a RGW bulb ?
I couldn't find a color selection on any of the templates

No, it is not. No scrollable dashboards currently.

Can do it in SharpTools though, but that isn't free any more.

I don't do rgb bulbs - so can't help you there. Might not be available yet, if I remember correctly? It is in SharpTools.

Use the "Other Hub" community developed app. You can reset the device without doing an Exclude on ST, this will make it available to pair to HE while ST still thinks it's there. Then after pairing, add it to the Other Hub app, and it will replicate a virtual device back to ST. Replace the original device with the new virtual device in all of your ST automations, and now you have the physical control happening in HE while the automations continue to run on ST. Pretty common migration tactic.

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I had paid for mobile sharptools app.
is it available for Hubitat ?
I mean , can I integrate tasker tasks with Hubitat devices using sharptools ?

@JasonJoelOld is referring to the SharpTools.io dashboards (forum topic).

The SharpTools Tasker plugins aren't available for Hubitat yet, but you can use the Hubitat Maker API (built-in Hubitat app) along with Tasker to control devices and get the status of them via HTTP endpoints.

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ok. there are other dashboards available. (Housepanel) , using another dashboard is something we can do.
but I am more interested in a Tasker integration.
How do we use the Maker API ?
is there a tutorial explaining with examples ?

edit: OK ; I think I got it. in any case, if there is a tutorial, I'd like to read , because I'm not sure if what I did on Tasker is the best method.

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btw, I was advised to use "Pushover" for notifications until mobile app is released.
but I can't find settings for it on my hub.
where is it ?

It's a device driver. Create a Virtual Device and choose Pushover. Once you've created the device, you'll see options for adding your Pushover API Key in the device preferences.

Edit: Like he says below. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Create a Virtual device and select Pushover driver for type and save.
Then go back into the virtual device and put in the API keys for your pushover account.

Ha. Just like he said above. :smile:

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ah I see.
Pushover is an app on Android and also it is a paid one.
Ok. but this isn't something to replace Smartthing's mobile app notifications.
It runs through some 3rd party cloud...
(I was advised to use this while waiting for the mobile Hubitat app release)

It's a service for getting push events to your phone. If you want to be able to react to events from Hubitat on your phone, then something like Pushover or Pushbullet are good approaches.

Both Pushover and Pushbullet have Tasker integration.

Even when the Hubitat app comes out, they'll likely have basic push notifications in place, but not direct Tasker integration. Granted, you could still use something like AutoNotification to intercept the notification from any app, including Hubitat, and do what you want with it.... but I find having a native Tasker plugin like Pushover and Pushbullet support to be convenient.

Correct. A one off life time fee.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this, but when you configure everything up, you select pushover and then send the message to your phone/device.

As does Smartthings.
If you want any sort of notification to be delivered to you when you are away, it has to use the cloud. This set up also uses the cloud when you are at home as well. (Just like ST).

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actually I am using Sharptools + Tasker for my ST hub.
I will still prefer Sharptools (not only because I have already paid for it but also I am used to it)
And built-in Maker API is good for direct Tasker integration.

For push notifications, I prefer to have it also built-in to the mobile app.
So it seems mobile app is still unbeatable and "not replaceable" by anything...

btw, why don't we have RGB dimmers on dashboard ?
why do we need everything to be 3rd party ?

  • notifications : 3rd party over Pushover
  • dashboard with RGB dimmers : 3rd party over HousePanel or Sharptools
  • mobile app : not available, try solutions with 3rd party
  • mobile presence : 3rd party with 360 something...

but in ST case, it is ST cloud. not a 3rd party vendor's cloud. (I know ST also runs on AWS but still ST is responsible for it)
I am migrating from ST to Hubitat because I don't prefer cloud.
And now I have to deal with even more cloud...

I'm wondering if you understand the concept of a Hub... It's the thing in the center. The thing that makes disparate things work together. :smiley:

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Because this platform is still really new and they are working hard but it takes time? The fact that we can create so many 3rd party apps/drivers is kind of a testament to HE.

Search the forums there are other ways to do notifications if you want. I created a simple one using a nodejs server and sendmail.

Sorry here's the link if interested.. it's still kind of crude..

(also apologies I haven't moved this over to the community repo yet!!)

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I think one of the things you have to remember is this product is still in its infancy. (I think so anyway).
I'm in the UK and when they released it to Europe I got one. That was in March 2018.
10 months ago.
It has come on a long way since then.
Can it do everything I could do with ST? No. But I think, and hope, it will.
I have got things working so that I have everything I did with ST. Albeit somethings are a bit convoluted at the moment.

One thing I will say is my home router crashed when I was away last summer.
I couldn't get into my RPi or the HE dashboards to see what was going on. When I got home everything had still carried on working. My curtains opened and closed, my lights turned on and off and my away rules for random lights being turned on and off to look like someone was in the house, worked OK. On ST I would have been dead in the water.
So for me, the current deficits are far out weighed by local automation that I know will carry on working on my current set up.

Just my observations on the product and I know everybody's needs and requirements are different and this is not in any way saying things are perfect.

I think you may find after you get into HE you will find that there are ways round most things.
Enjoy............ :wink:

BTW. It may seem like I'm in HE sales but I'm just an average, non-coding, retired old git who loves playing. :smile:

Now, where did I leave that bottle of red!!!! :wine_glass:

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Local push notifications don't exist...

Device control is local. That's the whole point.

I am using Smartthings, Philips Hue, Logitech Harmony together with many integrations like Google Assistant , Sonos, Amazon Alexa etc for a loooooong time.
So, yes, I know what a hub is.
Also, I am a network proffessional. I knew what a hub/bridge/router/switch is even long before "smart home" term was defined.
Besides, I am also a developer, and I understand to create something in the center of others.
But in "smart home" concept, there is no "one uniq method" of doing things.
Some people may prefer to have one control point with less integrations. Some may prefer to have as much integrations as possible.
on the other hand , strong side of Hubitat is that it is not controlled through a cloud.
And that is the main reason I am moving to Hubitat from ST.
So , I prefer to have less (very few) cloud communications and if possible zero 3rd party clouds required for functions that are available on ST builtin.

and there is still no explanation of "why we don't have a RGB dimmer on the native dashboard ?"