Smartthings to Hubitat Migration questions

btw, I was advised to use "Pushover" for notifications until mobile app is released.
but I can't find settings for it on my hub.
where is it ?

It's a device driver. Create a Virtual Device and choose Pushover. Once you've created the device, you'll see options for adding your Pushover API Key in the device preferences.

Edit: Like he says below. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Create a Virtual device and select Pushover driver for type and save.
Then go back into the virtual device and put in the API keys for your pushover account.

Ha. Just like he said above. :smile:

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ah I see.
Pushover is an app on Android and also it is a paid one.
Ok. but this isn't something to replace Smartthing's mobile app notifications.
It runs through some 3rd party cloud...
(I was advised to use this while waiting for the mobile Hubitat app release)

It's a service for getting push events to your phone. If you want to be able to react to events from Hubitat on your phone, then something like Pushover or Pushbullet are good approaches.

Both Pushover and Pushbullet have Tasker integration.

Even when the Hubitat app comes out, they'll likely have basic push notifications in place, but not direct Tasker integration. Granted, you could still use something like AutoNotification to intercept the notification from any app, including Hubitat, and do what you want with it.... but I find having a native Tasker plugin like Pushover and Pushbullet support to be convenient.

Correct. A one off life time fee.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this, but when you configure everything up, you select pushover and then send the message to your phone/device.

As does Smartthings.
If you want any sort of notification to be delivered to you when you are away, it has to use the cloud. This set up also uses the cloud when you are at home as well. (Just like ST).

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actually I am using Sharptools + Tasker for my ST hub.
I will still prefer Sharptools (not only because I have already paid for it but also I am used to it)
And built-in Maker API is good for direct Tasker integration.

For push notifications, I prefer to have it also built-in to the mobile app.
So it seems mobile app is still unbeatable and "not replaceable" by anything...

btw, why don't we have RGB dimmers on dashboard ?
why do we need everything to be 3rd party ?

  • notifications : 3rd party over Pushover
  • dashboard with RGB dimmers : 3rd party over HousePanel or Sharptools
  • mobile app : not available, try solutions with 3rd party
  • mobile presence : 3rd party with 360 something...

but in ST case, it is ST cloud. not a 3rd party vendor's cloud. (I know ST also runs on AWS but still ST is responsible for it)
I am migrating from ST to Hubitat because I don't prefer cloud.
And now I have to deal with even more cloud...

I'm wondering if you understand the concept of a Hub... It's the thing in the center. The thing that makes disparate things work together. :smiley:


Because this platform is still really new and they are working hard but it takes time? The fact that we can create so many 3rd party apps/drivers is kind of a testament to HE.

Search the forums there are other ways to do notifications if you want. I created a simple one using a nodejs server and sendmail.

Sorry here's the link if interested.. it's still kind of crude..

(also apologies I haven't moved this over to the community repo yet!!)

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I think one of the things you have to remember is this product is still in its infancy. (I think so anyway).
I'm in the UK and when they released it to Europe I got one. That was in March 2018.
10 months ago.
It has come on a long way since then.
Can it do everything I could do with ST? No. But I think, and hope, it will.
I have got things working so that I have everything I did with ST. Albeit somethings are a bit convoluted at the moment.

One thing I will say is my home router crashed when I was away last summer.
I couldn't get into my RPi or the HE dashboards to see what was going on. When I got home everything had still carried on working. My curtains opened and closed, my lights turned on and off and my away rules for random lights being turned on and off to look like someone was in the house, worked OK. On ST I would have been dead in the water.
So for me, the current deficits are far out weighed by local automation that I know will carry on working on my current set up.

Just my observations on the product and I know everybody's needs and requirements are different and this is not in any way saying things are perfect.

I think you may find after you get into HE you will find that there are ways round most things.
Enjoy............ :wink:

BTW. It may seem like I'm in HE sales but I'm just an average, non-coding, retired old git who loves playing. :smile:

Now, where did I leave that bottle of red!!!! :wine_glass:


Local push notifications don't exist...

Device control is local. That's the whole point.

I am using Smartthings, Philips Hue, Logitech Harmony together with many integrations like Google Assistant , Sonos, Amazon Alexa etc for a loooooong time.
So, yes, I know what a hub is.
Also, I am a network proffessional. I knew what a hub/bridge/router/switch is even long before "smart home" term was defined.
Besides, I am also a developer, and I understand to create something in the center of others.
But in "smart home" concept, there is no "one uniq method" of doing things.
Some people may prefer to have one control point with less integrations. Some may prefer to have as much integrations as possible.
on the other hand , strong side of Hubitat is that it is not controlled through a cloud.
And that is the main reason I am moving to Hubitat from ST.
So , I prefer to have less (very few) cloud communications and if possible zero 3rd party clouds required for functions that are available on ST builtin.

and there is still no explanation of "why we don't have a RGB dimmer on the native dashboard ?"

anyway, most of the issues are solved with built-in Maker API and 3rd party clouds now.
*Maker API is good !

my remaining problem is ;
using camera devices. I need to take photo from IP Camera device when a door opens.
is there any Camera driver ?
can I use the DH from Smartthings ?
(I guess not because it saves the photo to ST cloud with proprietary ST command)

No camera integrations that I know of. You might be out of luck there, unless your camera can take a snapshot based on command from ifttt, Alexa, Google home, or a simple http command - then you might be able to rig up something.

my camera can take a photo with http get/post
I don'T need ifttt or something to do that.
I can write my own driver.
However, I need to get the photo and save it somewhere.
if this is not possible with the Hubitat environment, then this feature of camera is useless.
will it be possible in future ?

Look in the Show Off Your Dashboard thread and see how many Weather Maps you see. Those are all done by http of an image file. You size and place a tile and Then for Device, leave it blank. For Template, pick image, and a third field will appear. Paste in the URL to your image.

To Generate and SAVE the image however is a task of something else. It's not a Hubitat task.

Take a look at Blue Iris and this community integration. It might help handle your cameras.

The point is a lot of these in ST are cloud integration. ST’s cloud talking to other people’s cloud. These can’t be implemented on a local only basis.

Device control can be implemented locally though, ST has a few devices that allow this but HE can control almost everything this way.

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