Simple Lighting - When someone departs?

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Is there a reason why "Someone Departs" is not an option?

YF

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You can just select one presence sensor, so that when “everyone” leaves, it’s no different than “someone.”

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Yes, you can do that, but what I am trying to do calls for having 5 presence sensors and "anyone" so that if any of those 5 presence sensors flips, it turns out the lights. There does not seem to be a way to do that. I would have to right a simple rule for each person. Might as well try this with complex rule in RM3.
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Why would you turn off a light if 1 person leaves but 4 are still there? Wouldn't the 4 still there WANT the lights on? :smile:

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@JasonJoel ,

Only three of the five are current residents. 1 goes to work in the dark. 2 come home in the dark. 1 is housebound. 2 arrive and depart during the day.

I use FINGBOX to determine presence via WiFi connect/disconnect from their phones to the home network. FING + IFTTT + Hubitat. FING detects and triggers virtual device switch/presence.

When 1 leaves in the dark, I want their departure to turn out the lights. No one else needs them on.
When either 1 or 2 come home in the dark, I want the lights to come on and stay on until both are present.

Does that make sense?

YF

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Ah, that makes more sense. I wasn't trying to be a wise-guy, I was genuinely curious of the use case.

To answer your original question - I think you can do what you want with Cobra's Presence Central app, using trigger action type Group 1 (Anyone arrives or leaves = changed presence).

Although I don't use that mode (I use Group 2), so am not 100% sure. Might be worth looking into though!

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@JasonJoel

I took it as intended. It is a little different scenario. I am going to check out @Cobra 's stuff. Sounds like he has quite a few things I may use. What is "Group 2"

YF

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Oh, for the presence central you have options on what it will decide is present vs away.

  1. Group 1 is Anyone arrives or leaves = changed presence
  2. Group 2 is 'Present' if ANYONE is at home - 'Not Present' only when EVERYONE leaves. That isn't what you want.
  3. Group 3 is 'Present' only if EVERYONE is at home - 'Not Present' if ANYONE leaves

EDIT: Would have been easier to just take a picture:

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@JasonJoel

That makes perfect sense. Had to read through it again, but it looks like G1 will work for me.