Ok, i have a c7 hub running the latest, but i have what i consider a problem.
Not many devices are correct.
Here is what i mean, i have a plug/relay, it should show up as a plug, not a switch. See, when i try to do atomations, and it says to select a presence sensor but none are shown as presence sensors, they are showing up as motion sensors. Needless to say, you can not do the same automations with motion sensors vs presence sensors. It is the same problem with buttons vs switch/relays, just not the correct selections.
How can i get my sensors to act and report properly?
Could you indicate where they are not correctly appearing? In the device screen, in Basic Rules or other apps, on dashboards? Can you also include some screenshots?
When you say presence sensors, are you taling about mmW sensors? If so, those will all be "motion" (not presence) for the down-to-brass-tacks attribute.
That's basically a legacy terminology issue (not unique to Hubitat) -- in home automation, the concept of "presence" has always been used for home-vs-away purposes.
Hard to say if there'll ever be a terminology-related sea change in the industry with mmW stuff getting more popular, but probably not -- using "motion" for mmW seems to work fine for folks so far.
Out of curiosity, how would a plug showing up as a plug be more helpful than as a switch (with respect to creating automations)? Smart plugs, switches and relays are all just a (relayed) switch at heart, after all. Or do you mean something aesthetically related (e.g. icon)?
Can you provide a specific example of a device where you have this plug/button/switch concern -- if you can share its Device Details info (Driver in particular) and where/how that's an issue in a specific automation of yours, then perhaps folks here can give more pointed advice.
It is mmwav sensors that have illuminance also. They are all marketed as presence sensors. The motion sensors I found online are pir sensors. Oh well, it is what it is.
Under the switch catagory, there are virtual buttons, actual button devices(controlers) and then, mainly relays of some sort called switches but are actually power plugs.
Under button devices, it also shows virtual buttons, button devices, a button pusher, then the hvac test controller, it has 4 relays, and 5 buttons but i cant seem to get that one working yet. No rush on it though, i have other problems first.
Based on the feature each can monitor, they have different (not sure what to call it). You can do different things with a presence sensor than you can with a switch/relay. These mmWave Sensors sense more than just motion. They have active times (limits you can put) before it turns off or on something else.
Sorry everyone, just teying to understand how it all works.
I understand that mmW sensors are marketed as presence sensors by the device manufacturers -- but that's an unfortunate (new/recent) disconnect with all home automation controllers than have forever used the term "presence sensor" to describe a device/tool that determines whether or not you're home or away from your home.
That's why all home automation controllers (not just Hubitat) still use the "motion" (not "presence") attribute with mmW sensors. They are motion sensors after all.
Switches are always going to be a big tent -- it's going to include pretty much anything with a relay, and lots of devices have relays.
If you have some devices that are showing up under really oddball attributes (like your leak sensors that come up as presence sensors), then I'd suspect a poorly written device driver is at fault.
See, that's what I am worried about, that something is not quite right. Most of the drivers were installed through hpm, but your right, I definitely need an experienced hubitat technician.
Seriously...for some reason it seems everything takes the hard road. For instance, some devices, once paired to the hub, do not get out of pairing mode no matter how many times I add it, re-add, and even deleting and re-pairing but they tend to stay in pairing mode. It is hit or miss.
