Yup. That’s a lot of red !!!
@bcopeland given that I am only actually using 1/3rd of the Greenwaves is it better to just disable the ones I am not using?
Yup if you have that many battery powered devices than I guess you are correct.
I kinda wish they would use a third color for battery powered devices !!
Or just view the powered devices separately.
Currently ~10 Thermostat Controller and ~TRVs
I have deployed the 4 TKBHome plugs around the house to improve zwave plus coverage, see if that help.
Waiting to see what @bcopeland says about the greanwaves I am not using - I had thought they would act as relays as they had done for the last 5 years - but seem to cause issues in HE 
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This is a useful app as well.
You can select a repeating device and it quickly shows you what devices are routing through it.
Also can sort on different things like the number of route changes per device.
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@bcopeland given that I am only actually using 1/3rd of the Greenwaves is it better to just disable the ones I am not using?
Is it better to disable the unused Greenwaves than have them on and distributed around the house?
I will have added 4 more zwave plus mains powered devices by end of the day and spread them around the house.
Have replaced two of the Greenwaves with zigbee innr sockets, shutdown the zigbee HE hub for 20 mins and restarted.
Will probably add two more innr sockets tomorrow.
Zwave 500 is that zwave plus?
@bcopeland the Greenwaves are zwave 500, which I thought were zwave Plus.
So with 30+ zwave 500s around the house I should expect a decent mesh?
They have been solid for several years and only since moving to HE have I encountered poor response times.
I have placed zwave 500s - several in each room of the house is there anything else I can do to make a zwave turn on/off reliable, and once consistent, timely, ie not a 20-30 second delay?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Huh... Ok.. I though all their gear was pre-plus.. My mistake if they are..
I’ll keep digging but I have seen one now saying zwave 500 and one saying not 500.
I am seeing that most of them operating at 100kbs
0x34 (052) PER: 0, RTT Avg: 4ms, LWR RSSI: 8dB
Neighbors: 27, Route Changes: 3 OKRepair in: 0x25, 0x32, 0x72, 0x86, 0x20, 0x71, 0x70, 0x27, 0x85, 0x87, 0x75, 0x56, out: Guest Left Socket None 01 -> 34 100kbps
Isn’t the 100kbs an indicator of zwave plus?
I suspect that as the Grrenwaves appear to be connecting OK and are transmitting at 100Kbs that the issue is now the driver or HE as the Greenwaves have been solid for years and they all start being sporadically unreliable on transfer to HE.
I have ordered some Neo Coolcam zwave plus Plugs to drop in around the house and replace some of the Greenwaves, along with the existing 4 TKBHome and the Fibaro plug I should be able to stabilise core items.
Also added a slack handful of INNR Zigbee plugs to replace the Greenwaves.
I may run up my old HA and run the Greenwaves of that and put in an MQTT to manage them.
I would have preferred to run all the zwave on just HE
For the last 36 hours a wave reliability is restored.
The switching of all a wave devices is near instantaneous.
Happy but odd.
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Always nice to hear happy updates.
So in the end you pulled the green waves off HE and this is what you have been testing for the last day and a half?
I pulled 4 Greenwaves out of the 30 connected to HE.
So not entirely sure it was the Greewaves that were the issue - but actually the symptom.
Not able to see any mass improvement topology - but every time I hit a zwave socket now it responds immediately.
So king of thinking it was 2.2.5 that fixed it
Possibly. I am going through a similar issues with my zigbee and Aqara devices right now. Although with these devices I know their are issues so I know I am causing my own issues. But they “seemed” to be affecting the performance of other devices that were fine before.
I would give it a week and then reintroduced one of them and see what happens. Depends on how attached to the green wave devices.
